Discord Mafia - ne63-chat

sunny 2024-04-01 12:57 p.m.

Day 1 Top

First?

Second!

Can’t believe they let the newbie be first

1:01 p.m.

Smh

i claim long vanilla townie

I’m being given the chance to talk a lot

1:01 p.m.

That is going to be a mistake

ninth

(I will not be spamming, do not worry)

I will be spamming

1:02 p.m.

worry.

proceed with caution

i'll be looking forward to that SmugSip

i will neither confirm nor deny if i will be spamming

I also have no idea what I’m doing so

making sure i understeand how the voting works

Discord mafia is new to me

TheSilverScepter

I also have no idea what I’m doing so

keep town in

1:03 p.m.

vote out mafia

1:03 p.m.

that's pretty much it

That I know

1:03 p.m.

Imma test voting

1:03 p.m.

Oh my god that’s how it works

1:03 p.m.

Crazy

honestly discord mafia might be more for me given how i hate having to write big cases lol

I come from a chat mafia community

Gypyx

honestly discord mafia might be more for me given how i hate having to write big cases lol

more for me

hate big cases

1:04 p.m.

ok

hey silver i'm a night 0 cop with a guilty on dragon wanna wagon him with me?

But have been playing forum games as well

Gypyx

hey silver i'm a night 0 cop with a guilty on dragon wanna wagon him with me?

Sure why not

majority is at 6 right

do you two know each other

Let me use the ability to vote through the bot, which I def did not learn a minute ago

majority starts d2 doesn't it

Code

do you two know each other

In a past life perhaps

Code

do you two know each other

Nope LOL

Xiaysa

majority starts d2 doesn't it

yes

Code

ninth

10th

hello kaz

Hi xia

Gypyx

yes

maj 5 then

Anyways

1:08 p.m.

I’m tired and will be gone for a bit, have stuff to do

alright, cya o/

Nevermind I am alive for a little bit LMAO

1:11 p.m.

I don’t know how to really treat discord mafia, I assume it’d be like any other style of mafia but it feels different lmao

Hello

o/

TheSilverScepter

I don’t know how to really treat discord mafia, I assume it’d be like any other style of mafia but it feels different lmao

well, you'll get a feel of it soon enough when people get a bit more active

o/

there seem to be a lot of new players this time, so most are prolly unsure of what to do

I feel like I should be able to get into the game better tho lmao

eh dw

just read people and decide if they sound like they're being natural or forced really

yep

1:13 p.m.

see if anyone seems stressed/nervous

Imma just treat this like chat mafia then

1:13 p.m.

But long term

that's pretty much what it is i'd say

speaking of which there's something that definetly feels a bit forced between Xiaysa / Scepter

Probably because of me, ngl lmao

1:14 p.m.

I feel like I have to overcompensate for some reason

i just like trying to get to know others

1:14 p.m.

i'm still somewhat new too, trying to find my own playstyle xDD

1:14 p.m.

This is the first time I’ve played mafia in about 2 years

1:15 p.m.

Nice to meet you all

my personal challenge for this game is to be more talkative/active than i was during my previous games

1:15 p.m.

nice to meet you too!

You can just call me Nocti or Owl it’s just easier

1:15 p.m.

Anyways

unironically wanna murder you for that xD but that might just be a typing quirk of yours

There’s not much to do on the first day is there

NoctiChill

There’s not much to do on the first day is there

we can vote out scum

Gypyx

unironically wanna murder you for that xD but that might just be a typing quirk of yours

it sorta is, yeah

voting out scum is pretty good

yep

I see

Xiaysa

it sorta is, yeah

just feels like you're being really self-conscious and trying to appear more lolrandom than you really are

sounds like me overall SmugSip

ugh

1:18 p.m.

can't belive i have to actually take into account other people's perspectives

dw i don't blame you for finding me sus XD

1:18 p.m.

yeahh

I have to get used to seeing XD

1:18 p.m.

I’m not used to that emote

1:18 p.m.

Oh my god

yw

Ok

it's like we're in 2003 again

1:19 p.m.

nostalgia

a lot of my friends use it, so i tend to use it a bit too

Xiaysa

dw i don't blame you for finding me sus XD

what would you say is your towniest trait?

Gypyx

it's like we're in 2003 again

Crazy, what was that like

Gypyx

unironically wanna murder you for that xD but that might just be a typing quirk of yours

mmm

Gypyx

what would you say is your towniest trait?

hmm me being genuine i'd say? i'm really bad at lying overall, so i doubt i'd do well as scum ngl

Gypyx

speaking of which there's something that definetly feels a bit forced between Xiaysa / Scepter

mmmmm

feel free to share your thoughts code

1:21 p.m.

i don't wanna take the lead here Ahhhh

Gypyx

just feels like you're being really self-conscious and trying to appear more lolrandom than you really are

sounds about normal for her

Gypyx

can't belive i have to actually take into account other people's perspectives

i hate this too

TheSilverScepter

I have to get used to seeing XD

I haven't used it since I was like 15

Xiaysa

hmm me being genuine i'd say? i'm really bad at lying overall, so i doubt i'd do well as scum ngl

understood

Code

i hate this too

vote me coward

Gypyx

vote me coward

ok

1:23 p.m.

I'm many things but if there's one thing people can't call me it's cowardly

1:23 p.m.

I will take the most irrational of bets

Xiaysa

Second!

Hi bestie 1

Dragon

Hi bestie 1

helloo!

Gypyx

i claim long vanilla townie

Hi bestie 2

Hi everyone

R u both town?

no

NoctiChill

Hi everyone

Hi new friend

what an entry from shigad

Codeulus has rolled scum

straight away with the sus

Gypyx

no

Oh. That's a bummer.

maybe not both of us, but i know i am

oh wait Xiaysa was the bestie whoops

Okay but what are your opinions of each other's alignment?

Gypyx

oh wait Xiaysa was the bestie whoops

You were the second bestie

Xiayasa is weird but also that's normal with her apparently

Gypyx

Codeulus has rolled scum

Why?

I don’t know anyone too well nor have I played in a while

yeah standard xia behaviour

So I have no idea

so not weird for her

hmm as of now i'd think gypyx is town with her trying to do reads

shigad tell me why you are town

1:25 p.m.

@Dragon

Code

shigad tell me why you are town

Nah

but i also don't want to set anything in stone quite yet, still too early to know for sure

tell me why you are scum then

Dragon

Why?

Too tryhardish

Is that a scum trait tho?

the shield on Xia is weirding me out a bit

So far there's nothing I did that's worth townreading.

I’ve never really understood why tryharding reads are a thing lmao

Gypyx

Too tryhardish

i. did literally nothing until i strted sussing shigad?

Gypyx

Too tryhardish

Code was also too tryhard in their last town game so idk

you either have a low bar for tryharding or you know nothing about me or both

code has played in both of my previous games so he just knows what i'm like

Xiaysa

code has played in both of my previous games so he just knows what i'm like

he

they**

1:26 p.m.

sorry

np

Like to me, Code has just been commenting on stuff and applying light pressure here and there

1:26 p.m.

I don’t take that as tryharding lmao

if you wanna see tryharding go back to my last 5 games where I found and pressured scum HARD within 5 minutes of entry

If anything, I’m more appreciative of it because it shows a willingness to take initiative and move the game along

yes, all 5

1:27 p.m.

this is very laid back for me

yepp

@Xiaysa @Gypyx @Code Okay I am gonna assume all three of you are town for now. I'll revisot these reads later when I feel like reading stuff in depth. Wanna vote some random person with me?

Dragon

@Xiaysa @Gypyx @Code Okay I am gonna assume all three of you are town for now. I'll revisot these reads later when I feel like reading stuff in depth. Wanna vote some random person with me?

why are we town

1:28 p.m.

and no i don't

I'm thinking kaz

Like, sure maybe tryharding can be wolfy but how is the way Code is wolfy

I've assholed kaz the last 2 games running

TheSilverScepter

Like, sure maybe tryharding can be wolfy but how is the way Code is wolfy

you are my new friend

This is all to Gypyx btw

ok maybe tryhard is a wrong word, i basically meant that codeulus feels like they're already having to effort for something that imo town wouldn't have

1:28 p.m.

t

1:28 p.m.

to

Code

why are we town

No reason, I am just lazy right now and assuming you guys are town is going to result in more content to analyze later

Gypyx

ok maybe tryhard is a wrong word, i basically meant that codeulus feels like they're already having to effort for something that imo town wouldn't have

and what is this thing i'm "having to effort for"?

Dragon

@Xiaysa @Gypyx @Code Okay I am gonna assume all three of you are town for now. I'll revisot these reads later when I feel like reading stuff in depth. Wanna vote some random person with me?

bzzzt

Code

you are my new friend

You are currently a town lean for having initiative and actually getting the game moving lmao

i genuinely want to know what you're thinking

@Gypyx is the vote on me RVS or?

Code

and what is this thing i'm "having to effort for"?

General posting? for instance, the blunt way you're trying to prod for reads, how you reacted to me asking to get voted

Dragon

@Gypyx is the vote on me RVS or?

original one was, mine isn't

nah, code tends to put a lot of effort into the game from the get go in games from what i've seen

1:29 p.m.

so it's just typical code i'd say

I guess Gypyx also did something, but I took their comment on Xia and I’s interaction as more of like a personality observation

Dragon

@Gypyx is the vote on me RVS or?

the mod told me by PM you rolled mafia, sorry

Gypyx

General posting? for instance, the blunt way you're trying to prod for reads, how you reacted to me asking to get voted

yeah okay you just know nothing about me

Gypyx

bzzzt

Okay sell me on Code as mafia

i won't take it personally

Yea imma just

1:30 p.m.

Always advocate for getting used to playstyle

1:30 p.m.

Before jumping the gun on reads lmao

Dragon

Okay sell me on Code as mafia

that's what i've been talking about

if shigad switches now he's very clearly mafia

Gypyx

the mod told me by PM you rolled mafia, sorry

Okay cool

TheSilverScepter

Always advocate for getting used to playstyle

if you think my vote will still be based on these reads mid day you would be wrong

he already is imo but we'll see

Code

if shigad switches now he's very clearly mafia

To whom?

Ok yeah i can absolutely see scum!shigad yeah

Gypyx

if you think my vote will still be based on these reads mid day you would be wrong

genuinely please just go read ne62 and at least sus me on something i can find reasonable

Gypyx

if you think my vote will still be based on these reads mid day you would be wrong

Well being hasty like this normally doesn’t end well with players people don’t have experience with so

1:31 p.m.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

have i sworn here yet

1:31 p.m.

this might be a new record for me

@Gypyx I don't think Code's tryharding is scum indicative since they did the same thing or worse last game

TheSilverScepter

Well being hasty like this normally doesn’t end well with players people don’t have experience with so

i know what i'm doing don't worry

Not saying you don’t, just giving my two cents here

gypy you seem

1:32 p.m.

extremely confident for a new player

Code

extremely confident for a new player

She's really not new

Code

extremely confident for a new player

that's cause i'm not really new

Dragon

She's really not new

how much experience

Lol jinx

like

1:33 p.m.

20-30 games?

1:33 p.m.

of forum mafia

is this another cliquey game where everyone knows everyone

and that's not counting all the chat mafia that i really don't have track of

Nope

1:33 p.m.

I only know Luka and Cait

Code

is this another cliquey game where everyone knows everyone

nope

Code

is this another cliquey game where everyone knows everyone

No

Code

is this another cliquey game where everyone knows everyone

yes we will do meta reads and only meta reads here

I only know you, gypyx, xia and Kaz

Gypyx

yes we will do meta reads and only meta reads here

good, now go read me properly

if you don't have 5 years of experience with someone your opinion doesn't count

And only played 1 game with each

Code

good, now go read me properly

or we could keep fighting each other till one of us drops dead of exhaustion

you don't wanna fight me

1:34 p.m.

i'm more stubborn than all of you combined

Actually have I even played a game with Gypyx?

or we could try to avoid any fights in here

I don't think I have

Xiaysa

or we could try to avoid any fights in here

Good idea

hello :)

hello!

Hello!

1:34 p.m.

New friend

Dragon

Actually have I even played a game with Gypyx?

don't think so either

yaya

Code

you don't wanna fight me

that sounds like a challenge :)

Ignore all the other chaos happening, wassup

yeah haha i was wondering what was going on

i’m good thanks!

frosted ✧

yeah haha i was wondering what was going on

i’m good thanks!

are you completely new to mafia games, or??

i'm ngl i didn't realise so many minors played mafia here

i play irl with my friends! i also played one night werewolf too, but I don’t play super often 3chide

or generally

frosted ✧

i play irl with my friends! i also played one night werewolf too, but I don’t play super often 3chide

ohh i used to play irl with my friends before too, before i started here

You’d be surprised how many people play mafia lmao

the gen alphas are invading our hobby this is so sad

Code

or generally

Actually everyone I know who plays mafia started playing as a minor

TheSilverScepter

You’d be surprised how many people play mafia lmao

this doesn't surprise me, i just regularly forget that people are also children

Fair lmao

@Dragon Explain the vote please~~

1:38 p.m.

Hihi

1:39 p.m.

!!

Helloo!!

@TheSilverScepter Town or mafia MenheraCurious1

oh god its luka

I’ve played with people who are teens and also with those that are like, in their 30s

1:39 p.m.

LUKA

1:39 p.m.

BI

1:39 p.m.

HI*

HIII SILVERRR

HI

Luka

@Dragon Explain the vote please~~

It's a random vote

Code

oh god its luka

Do you hate me that much... KannaCry

Luka

@TheSilverScepter Town or mafia MenheraCurious1

Me or you

TheSilverScepter

HI

HAII

TheSilverScepter

I’ve played with people who are teens and also with those that are like, in their 30s

i just assume people are adults or at least 16+

TheSilverScepter

Me or you

Me

Uh

1:39 p.m.

Town because I want you to be

Luka

Do you hate me that much... KannaCry

your gameplay is annoying because it's so anime-y that idk how to read you.

1:39 p.m.

not you as a person

Correct answer!

Yeahi

Code

your gameplay is annoying because it's so anime-y that idk how to read you.

Luka are you polarized here just as much as on MU

I aint reading allat

Hey

Cait :D

TheSilverScepter

Luka are you polarized here just as much as on MU

Volume tell,

1:40 p.m.

For the most part no tho neko_nod

Oh my god people I know

TheSilverScepter

Luka are you polarized here just as much as on MU

Luka isn't polarized here or on MU

Luka

For the most part no tho neko_nod

Got it

@Dragon why me?

TheSilverScepter

Cait :D

Scepter!

Caitlin

Hey

Omg Hai Cait who are the mafia AcerolaYay

Eh, Luka is fairly polarized~ from what I’ve seen on MU

ping me when something exciting happens

Caitlin

Luka isn't polarized here or on MU

Luka

Omg Hai Cait who are the mafia AcerolaYay

No clue

Caitlin

No clue

Fair!

1:40 p.m.

@ me once you have a clue!

But that might just be me knowing how to read him after speccing him and playing with him lmao

I'm gonna quickly to glance at the game in the 5m I have

@Gypyx why are you voting with your scum read

Dragon

@Gypyx why are you voting with your scum read

Why can't you vote with a scum read?

1:41 p.m.

Silver having 68 posts is nice...

1:41 p.m.

@TheSilverScepter Did you rand mafia? I think you did...

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403574600241243 This is a wolf

Xia sounds super akaward haha

Luka

Silver having 68 posts is nice...

69

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403674768347236 Scepter stay around till at least November We have annual tournaments!

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403574600241243 This is a wolf

Omg we posted at the same time

Luka

Omg we posted at the same time

Omg!

Caitlin

Omg!

Mindmeld!!

Luka

Why can't you vote with a scum read?

Eh, I point out the same things often lmao

I'll be back a bit later, in the midst of something..

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403875021324339 Gypyx we have played before right? I dont recall where, though

Luka

@TheSilverScepter Did you rand mafia? I think you did...

No :3

I'm 0Ix on MU

Wait has Gypyx played on MU?

Luka

Xia sounds super akaward haha

yeah i always am, especially on d1 when i still have no clue how to start XD

Dragon

@Gypyx why are you voting with your scum read

well deulus raised some decent points and also if you're T/S it's whatever who i vote, just need to put pressure to figure it out

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403875021324339 Gypyx we have played before right? I dont recall where, though

i've done like 2-4 games on MU

TheSilverScepter

Wait has Gypyx played on MU?

Might not have been at MU

not my greatest performances

Hmm

but they were certainely games

Well its possible it was there

oh wait

Lol

i think we did do a cop13er

Ohhhhh

1:44 p.m.

Or perhaps I hosted it

1:44 p.m.

The Light Cop 13er game

1:44 p.m.

Were you in that

yeah

1:44 p.m.

that sounds like something i played

Cool

1:44 p.m.

I was the host of that game

1:45 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224403952850960455 I come from ToSFM but thats been dead for years

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/40733-Cop-13er-Light-Game this one for reference

Completed: Cop 13er Light Game

Heyyyyyy it's Caitlin and I'm now hosting a game here. This is my first time hosting here so pls go easy on me ^^' I do have experience hosting elsewhere The Setup Cop (with n0 check) Citizen x9 Goon x3 Other Specifics! Days: 48 hours Nights: 24 hours

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224405738680750161 It feels similar to MU except more focussed on realtiming, less focussed on making big posts

Gypyx

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/40733-Cop-13er-Light-Game this one for reference

Yep

1:46 p.m.

Look I said my name is Caitlin in the OP!

I turn my back for 2 seconds and Kazuma already starting it with the thunderdome

1:47 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma)

1:47 p.m.

Is it because I didn't say hi to you

1:47 p.m.

It's because I didn't say hi to you isn't it

Yes it is

Bye

Im upset

Code

Is it because I didn't say hi to you

Code is the second wolf btw

I’m going to just

Probably with Kazuma as first wolf instead of Xia

Caitlin

Code is the second wolf btw

Yeah got me, I'm your partner

Leave and nap lmao

1:48 p.m.

I’ll read stuff when I’m back because I’m going to have spotty signal for a while

1:48 p.m.

(Also am I allowed to curse)

TheSilverScepter

I’ll read stuff when I’m back because I’m going to have spotty signal for a while

Okay

Caitlin

Probably with Kazuma as first wolf instead of Xia

Omg code they’re on to us

Yes you are

TheSilverScepter

(Also am I allowed to curse)

No fuck you

We also can say 'lynch' unlike MU

Code

No fuck you

Damn, fuck you too then

uhm (Kazuma)

Omg code they’re on to us

Run

Caitlin

We also can say 'lynch' unlike MU

People say that in MU…?

TheSilverScepter

People say that in MU…?

Its an illegal word on MU technically

Caitlin

We also can say 'lynch' unlike MU

fuck saying lynch all my homies hate saying lynch

Ah

All my homies are lynxhed

People do ignore the rule

lynched

Well then a lot of people have been doing illegal shit on MU lmao

Some games do force replace ppl that say it

Imma actually go nap now cause tired

If DkKoba hosts its usually in the OP in big letters

Code

All my homies are lynxhed

mauled by a pack of lynxes

1:49 p.m.

this is so sad

DO NOT SAY LYNCH!

Lynched by lynx

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224406000535081101 Yea which made this game quite fun-looking for me Is that a word?

Back

Wb

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224406000535081101 Yea which made this game quite fun-looking for me Is that a word?

Same i get to abuse people's newness and get away with it

1:51 p.m.

I mean

i think that is a word, yeah

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224406000535081101 Yea which made this game quite fun-looking for me Is that a word?

I’m not sure

Not abuse

NoctiChill

Back

welcome back nocti!

Hi

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224406756151525507 Good idea No clue how much you posted last time but more posts is good

Code

Same i get to abuse people's newness and get away with it

Yea!!!

Gypyx

well deulus raised some decent points and also if you're T/S it's whatever who i vote, just need to put pressure to figure it out

Which points?

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224406756151525507 Good idea No clue how much you posted last time but more posts is good

yeah, certainly wouldn't hurt to have more posts

Dragon

Which points?

The points about you being mafia

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224407522429898833 This and 2 posts above feel townie for Gypyx imo

Probably

Dragon

Which points?

personality stuff, at least she made me consider a world where it's just how they play, i'm not fully convinced but i at least wanna wait and see

i also felt bad for mostly just lurking and seeing what others wrote etc so i wanna try to change that this game, as much as i'm able to at least

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224409036041097407 Shigad entry is the towniest yet I feel

yeah, i'd say shigad is town too

Shigad tone is akward but i agree that's a good post

Xiaysa

yeah i always am, especially on d1 when i still have no clue how to start XD

I get it

1:54 p.m.

I get akaward too.

Gypyx

personality stuff, at least she made me consider a world where it's just how they play, i'm not fully convinced but i at least wanna wait and see

Yeah these are fine points of ehy not to scumread them but not really on why to scumread me

You're still mafia tho :p

Xiaysa

yeah, i'd say shigad is town too

Yay

@Code Explain vote?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224410266612273345 Idk Code feels unsettling

Luka

You're still mafia tho :p

what makes you think so?? mEhh

So I'd re-eval them Silver

TheSilverScepter

Can’t believe they let the newbie be first

I agree, it'l never happen again MenheraWink1

TheSilverScepter

(I will not be spamming, do not worry)

Nothing wrong with spamming!

Dragon

Yeah these are fine points of ehy not to scumread them but not really on why to scumread me

that one is cause i think you're a member of the mafia

Code

that's pretty much it

DW Silver is experienced...

1:55 p.m.

Kinda

Gypyx

Shigad tone is akward but i agree that's a good post

Sorry I suck at realtime chat convos

Gypyx

that one is cause i think you're a member of the mafia

Why

Gypyx

speaking of which there's something that definetly feels a bit forced between Xiaysa / Scepter

Omg so villagery but youre a MS player so you're wolf by default MenheraWink1

Gypyx

voting out scum is pretty good

Hm... But I dun wanna die!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224411321185861642 I know you & Luka the most, but I also know Code, Gypyx and Kazuma a bit

Btw

TheSilverScepter

I’m not used to that emote

Shigad how experienced are you?

Luka

Omg so villagery but youre a MS player so you're wolf by default MenheraWink1

i must perish for my sins of liking the 7/2 time format

Code

is this another cliquey game where everyone knows everyone

Yes! I'm apart of it :blush

1:56 p.m.

Wait aa

1:56 p.m.

Gypyx and xia I already said this but am finally in the same timezone as you both

I wouldn't say people are cliquey

Gypyx

i must perish for my sins of liking the 7/2 time format

Exactly!!!

1:57 p.m.

Die!

Luka i wanna marry you

Caitlin

I wouldn't say people are cliquey

Yeah, not in this game. Sometimes people are when I'm in lobby, I would argue that the CO game that I canned was cliquey since people just followed me.

are you single

Also I think I am going to go sleep early tonight because I slept 4 hours last night. And "slept" is a strong word

Gypyx

Luka i wanna marry you

W-Wha?

1:57 p.m.

Not now...

Luka

Yeah, not in this game. Sometimes people are when I'm in lobby, I would argue that the CO game that I canned was cliquey since people just followed me.

That was horrible

Caitlin

Shigad how experienced are you?

Uhhhhhh

1:57 p.m.

20-40 games?

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224411321185861642 I know you & Luka the most, but I also know Code, Gypyx and Kazuma a bit

I do not know you

Caitlin

That was horrible

Agree I woulda hated it as town

Gypyx pocketing Luka by proposing

Code

I do not know you

I have literally

I don't know I am not counting

Hosted a game

Dragon

Why

i could go into more details but i feel like your play this game fits with the mindset of someone who's not too confident in their scumgame

With you in it

Caitlin

Gypyx pocketing Luka by proposing

Omg.... @Gypyx You would never- YancyBlush

Gypyx

i could go into more details but i feel like your play this game fits with the mindset of someone who's not too confident in their scumgame

Huh

Luka

@Code Explain vote?

Entry different to last game + felt awkward

Luka be assured, me being Mafia has nothing to do with my burning passion for you

Wolfy:
- Xia
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

Dragon

20-40 games?

Hm okay cool

I am just not really efforting yet so I get why you say that

Gypyx

Luka be assured, me being Mafia has nothing to do with my burning passion for you

Which player is dragon_writer

I'll effort more tomorrow

by that i mean that you're really worried about dying i feel

Caitlin

Which player is dragon_writer

Sig

Caitlin

Which player is dragon_writer

shigad

Caitlin

Which player is dragon_writer

That's me

Oh okay

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

2:00 p.m.

Wow I'm so confident in my reads!

2:00 p.m.

Gypyx

by that i mean that you're really worried about dying i feel

Nah, I am just trying to understand your motove behind the vote. I'm pretty sure I am not gonna die today

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

Is Silver on a town streak? Hm

2:00 p.m.

Thats strange then

Caitlin

Is Silver on a town streak? Hm

Mmhm!

mhhhmmhhmh !

2:00 p.m.

(i am currently eating very hot food)

Dragon

Nah, I am just trying to understand your motove behind the vote. I'm pretty sure I am not gonna die today

Ew I can't edit this to fix the typo. Obviously I meant motive

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

Why is xia wolfy?

Dragon

Why is xia wolfy?

I rolled a d10...

Town Shigad Gypyx Silver(?) Luka Nocti = Frost Kazuma Code Xia Mafia

jkjk- They feelt really akaward and stilted :p

Luka

I rolled a d10...

Lol

Caitlin

Town Shigad Gypyx Silver(?) Luka Nocti = Frost Kazuma Code Xia Mafia

Where's the null line?

Luka

jkjk- They feelt really akaward and stilted :p

Oh

Nocti = Frost is the null line

Omg that means I'm towny ^^

I don’t really know what to say most of the time

I was kind of hoping to rand mafia..

Caitlin

Town Shigad Gypyx Silver(?) Luka Nocti = Frost Kazuma Code Xia Mafia

Also why do you think xia and code are scummy?

NoctiChill

I don’t really know what to say most of the time

DW, neither do I!

i mean, you can vote me if you'd like i don't have any reason to be scared of dying today

Dragon

Also why do you think xia and code are scummy?

You ask to much questions.

Dragon

Also why do you think xia and code are scummy?

I accused Xia for the exact same reason as Luka, but seconds earlier

2:02 p.m.

Lol

Xiaysa

i mean, you can vote me if you'd like i don't have any reason to be scared of dying today

This is towny! (It's not, but I dun wanna hurt your feelings </3)

Caitlin

I accused Xia for the exact same reason as Luka, but seconds earlier

I think it was like, 1s :kannc

2:02 p.m.

a

2:02 p.m.

I still want credit for the scum lynch okay!

Luka

You ask to much questions.

Well that one wasn't for you.

And I didn't like Code's interaction with Kazuma but mostly on Code's part

Dragon

Well that one wasn't for you.

Doesn't effect really much haha Are you new to mafia

2:03 p.m.

?

Felt awkward

And yes I want to understand whether people's reads are real or not

Luka

Doesn't effect really much haha Are you new to mafia

Bruh caitlin already asked me earlier

Luka

I think it was like, 1s :kannc

I'm specifying it so I dont get

Dragon

And yes I want to understand whether people's reads are real or not

All of our reads are real.

Luka

This is towny! (It's not, but I dun wanna hurt your feelings </3)

oh that's fine XDD i really don't mind

Dragon

Bruh caitlin already asked me earlier

I didn't read~~

'Why did you copy it off of Luka'

Xiaysa

oh that's fine XDD i really don't mind

>:3

Caitlin

'Why did you copy it off of Luka'

I didn't want to get that from people either so I said 1s SeleneLul

2:04 p.m.

I'm a professional skill issue on Cait but she should just be town?

Luka

I didn't read~~

Then the answer is no I'm not new

Dragon

Then the answer is no I'm not new

Luka

I didn't want to get that from people either so I said 1s SeleneLul

I ngl have no idea how long it was

I agree caitlin is towny

I wasn't looking at the present chat when you replied

2:04 p.m.

So it could be 1 second, 20 seconds

Caitlin

I ngl have no idea how long it was

It was short enough to the point where I don't think either of us saw eachothers messages

I have no clue sorry

You're fine aha

I'm right now voting Kaz due to PoE mainly. It worked well last game.

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

Dragon

I agree caitlin is towny

Caitlin agrees too

Omg!

2:05 p.m.

I'm so good at this game!

2:05 p.m.

Caitlin is not towny >:c

2:05 p.m.

She is a MAFIA >:C

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

Shigad is town though

Luka

Caitlin is not towny >:c

Buuuut your list

Caitlin

Shigad is town though

Hm...

2:05 p.m.

Are theyyyy?

Gth if Luka is a wolf his teammate is not on the list

Yes

Caitlin

Gth if Luka is a wolf his teammate is not on the list

One second-

Tell it to your teammate

2:06 p.m.

That I already saw through it

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

POE:
- Kazuma
- Frosted
- Code
- Silver

2:06 p.m.

Gg I'm hard cleared

2:06 p.m.

YWY

2:06 p.m.

W

Okay anyway I am going to either go to sleep or attempt to go to sleep and then actually go to sleep in an hour

2:06 p.m.

Good night all

Luka

2:06 p.m.

You're missing someone

2:06 p.m.

No clue who

2:06 p.m.

But you got Silver twice

2:06 p.m.

So you miss someone

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

POE:
- Kazuma
- Frosted
- Code
- Silver

That's not how you ise PoE though?

Wolfy:

Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Shigad Towny:
Luka
Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt) POE:
Kazuma
Frosted
Code
Owl

Nocti

Caitlin

You're missing someone

Sorry I was missing my partner

2:07 p.m.

MBMB

Dragon

That's not how you ise PoE though?

It... Is though?

No

Process of elimination If my wolfs are wrong, this is where I look?

2:07 p.m.

That's the- It is

Oh

2:07 p.m.

I get what you mean

2:07 p.m.

Okay now good night for real

2:07 p.m.

Bye

Oh it's an EpicMafia player

2:08 p.m.

h

2:08 p.m.

Just looked at your home community

2:08 p.m.

I really needed Lag as a mentor..

2:08 p.m.

One second

2:08 p.m.

@Xiaysa What are the games you played prior? Can you link them?

2:08 p.m.

Can you explain your differnece in approach to this game and those games?

2:09 p.m.

I have a wolf lean on Silver atm, not confident in that

Wait

2:09 p.m.

Shigad is an EM'er

2:09 p.m.

?

Yeah

2:09 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1090389373490561044/1221013095246204969

@Dragon do you know SamP4Palmer

Luka

I really needed Lag as a mentor..

Caitlin

TwT it's serious! I'm lost!

I needed a mentor too tbh

Omg me fr....

2:10 p.m.

Cait is going to carry me this game I trust her...

Are there mentors for championships

Caitlin

Are there mentors for championships

Omg ~~Mentor Championships~~ No I don't think so neko_nod

Luka

I really needed Lag as a mentor..

he didn't sign up

Luka

Wolfy:

Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Shigad Towny:
Luka
Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt) POE:
Kazuma
Frosted
Code
Owl

Luka probably is town but why does your POE have precisely 0 of your scum reads

Luka

@Xiaysa What are the games you played prior? Can you link them?

#ne61-chat #ne62-chat In both of those games i was maf, so i had a partner to rely on (ish) and ofc, doubting myself a lot with my reads in ne62 i sadly died n1 tho so didn't get to do too much there this game i'm trying to overall be more active and pay a lil more attention to what people say and how they react and ofc, currently writing down my reads as of now to try to be more confident in what my gut tells me

Luka

Omg ~~Mentor Championships~~ No I don't think so neko_nod

Sad

we'll see how accurate my reads will be tho xDD

sunny

he didn't sign up

also look at this new clown update awesome

Code

Luka probably is town but why does your POE have precisely 0 of your scum reads

And why am I town?

Xiaysa

#ne61-chat #ne62-chat In both of those games i was maf, so i had a partner to rely on (ish) and ofc, doubting myself a lot with my reads in ne62 i sadly died n1 tho so didn't get to do too much there this game i'm trying to overall be more active and pay a lil more attention to what people say and how they react and ofc, currently writing down my reads as of now to try to be more confident in what my gut tells me

You were not maf in ne62

sunny

also look at this new clown update awesome

Suits you

Luka

And why am I town?

Because you aren't stupid enough to do what you just did as maf.

ofi

2:12 p.m.

my gosh i'm sleepy

2:12 p.m.

yeah i mean mason LMAO

Jk

Now you answer my question

Caitlin

Suits you

true!

Code

Because you aren't stupid enough to do what you just did as maf.

@Caitlin Confirm this!

2:12 p.m.

Also, I didn't do anything stupid so that read is really bad >.<

Luka

@Caitlin Confirm this!

Answer my question. Why does your POE not have any of your wolf reads.

@sunny I love u!

i need more sleep, dst sucks

2:13 p.m.

alright back to writing down my reads

Luka

@Caitlin Confirm this!

It wasnt stupid so I disagree on the read

Caitlin

It wasnt stupid so I disagree on the read

Towny response...

Xiaysa

#ne61-chat #ne62-chat In both of those games i was maf, so i had a partner to rely on (ish) and ofc, doubting myself a lot with my reads in ne62 i sadly died n1 tho so didn't get to do too much there this game i'm trying to overall be more active and pay a lil more attention to what people say and how they react and ofc, currently writing down my reads as of now to try to be more confident in what my gut tells me

Any town games I can look at?

Code

Answer my question. Why does your POE not have any of your wolf reads.

@Luka

Your definition on PoE is just clearly delusional

Code

@Luka

I'm thinking if I should answer this or I should torment you...

Luka

Any town games I can look at?

no i mixed up maf and mason because i was in the middle of writing down my reads xDDD

2:14 p.m.

so i was mason in those games

Caitlin

Your definition on PoE is just clearly delusional

Omg you should white knight me all game and make it so I don't have to play thoughts?

Caitlin

Your definition on PoE is just clearly delusional

Idk what your problem is

Also it was clear those 4 were added as a joke anyway

Luka

Omg you should white knight me all game and make it so I don't have to play thoughts?

Why would I do thst

Xiaysa

no i mixed up maf and mason because i was in the middle of writing down my reads xDDD

Oh okay xD Is it because you were thinking of mafia?? MenharaThink

Becuase you are mafia??? MenharaThink

Code

Idk what your problem is

This was to Luka

Caitlin

Also it was clear those 4 were added as a joke anyway

If it was clear I wouldn't need to ask

Caitlin

This was to Luka

Oh mb

Caitlin

This was to Luka

Oh let me edit my response: Omg me fr...

Code

If it was clear I wouldn't need to ask

The context made it clear

Caitlin

Why would I do thst

I randed town ^^

Luka posted the list w/o that

Caitlin

The context made it clear

Clearly it didn't.

Then I said

Luka

Oh okay xD Is it because you were thinking of mafia?? MenharaThink

Becuase you are mafia??? MenharaThink

no, i

If Luka is a wolf his teammate isn't on the list

xD

i'm writing down my reads

Then he reposted it with the added PoE section

2:15 p.m.

Stating he was conftown now

Yeah no I'm just confused

Me fr...

This is why I don't like playing with luka

Code

Yeah no I'm just confused

What are you confused on?

2:15 p.m.

Basically, I just added a null section to my list

2:15 p.m.

To confirm me town

2:15 p.m.

since Cait said that my wolf teamate wasn't on my list..

But it rlly didn't work like that

Code

This is why I don't like playing with luka

OMG @Ngekop FR!!!!

Luka

since Cait said that my wolf teamate wasn't on my list..

Yea on the list of 6

2:16 p.m.

Not on the list of 10

Luka

To confirm me town

How does it confirm you town though

Caitlin

Yea on the list of 6

Omg me fr... sadcat

Code

How does it confirm you town though

Uhm, it was a joke silly

Code

How does it confirm you town though

If his teammate wasn't on the list and everyone was on it it means he couldnt have one It was a joke

Eh whatever. Luka town anyway

I'm confirmed town since my sheer charisma radiates through the computer into the hearts of the users!

Code

Eh whatever. Luka town anyway

Why?

Code

Eh whatever. Luka town anyway

I beg to differ

Caitlin

If his teammate wasn't on the list and everyone was on it it means he couldnt have one It was a joke

Was everyone on the list? I actually didn't read it properly

uhm (Kazuma)

I beg to differ

Your gut isn't infallible as proven last game

Everyone but Nocti since he put Silver on it twice on accident

Caitlin

Everyone but Nocti since he put Silver on it twice on accident

Oh okay ty

But it was supposed to have everyone

uhm (Kazuma)

I beg to differ

Omg not me fr...

Caitlin

Everyone but Nocti since he put Silver on it twice on accident

My teamate is confirmed!

2:18 p.m.

I'm wolf with Nocti!

2:18 p.m.

Just kidding, im the towniest town to ever town!

Hi im back

NoctiChill

Hi im back

Hiya!

2:18 p.m.

Do you know who's evil yet?

Code

Your gut isn't infallible as proven last game

We dont talk about that game

Luka

Do you know who's evil yet?

I have no idea I don’t even know how everyone’s trying to figure out scum

Gut still thinks it’s you for some reason too

I am really lost

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut still thinks it’s you for some reason too

2:18 p.m.

Is it cause I'm wolf?

NoctiChill

I have no idea I don’t even know how everyone’s trying to figure out scum

It's fine, take your time Pat

2:19 p.m.

Nocti is town!

as of now, i'd say the most sus one would be maybe kaz but still too early to tell for sure with him code could be town, but they haven't gone in as strongly as in previous games so hard to really know for sure quite yet, might be more into it later on but i'd doubt the two of them are partners ngl Luka, shigad and cait seem towny as of now i'd also say gypyx is leaning more towards town still a bit unsure on silver, hasn't put too much effort into reads yet so i'll put him as possible sus as of now can't say anything much about frosted yet, she hasn't said much yet so hard to tell same goes for nocti, but would like to think they're leaning more towards town

Luka

Nocti is town!

Could you tell me why you believe that

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut still thinks it’s you for some reason too

Gut can kiss my ass

@Xiaysa You're either mafia or power role!

that's what i got down from now, not too much and still feeling unsure since i only know like 3 of them from previous games

I didn't shade Xia until she said like 5 times she was writing her list

Code

Gut can kiss my ass

Gut is the majority of how you play mafia... sadcat

You just conf bias gut reads!

Code

Gut can kiss my ass

Gut would love to

Luka

Gut is the majority of how you play mafia... sadcat

You just conf bias gut reads!

I know. My d1 record proves it works

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut would love to

Gut can come to my house then

Code

I didn't shade Xia until she said like 5 times she was writing her list

at least i'm trying to share my reads more this game Ahhhh

Xia is wolf fr... sadcat

would be nice if some people would read the following messages i send too before asking more questions

Xiaysa

as of now, i'd say the most sus one would be maybe kaz but still too early to tell for sure with him code could be town, but they haven't gone in as strongly as in previous games so hard to really know for sure quite yet, might be more into it later on but i'd doubt the two of them are partners ngl Luka, shigad and cait seem towny as of now i'd also say gypyx is leaning more towards town still a bit unsure on silver, hasn't put too much effort into reads yet so i'll put him as possible sus as of now can't say anything much about frosted yet, she hasn't said much yet so hard to tell same goes for nocti, but would like to think they're leaning more towards town

Why shig town

Code

Gut can come to my house then

Omg

Sorry- Sorry, Gyp is my true love

Luka

@Xiaysa You're either mafia or power role!

@Xiaysa Making sure you're aware of this..

2:21 p.m.

Fr...

Code

Gut can come to my house then

Gut is already watching HyperFlushed

Luka

Omg

Sorry- Sorry, Gyp is my true love

Good thing I wasn't asking you then isn't it

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut is already watching HyperFlushed

Hot

So, if Xia isn't vig then shoot them...

Code

Why shig town

for now, guts, i just feel like he doesn't seem sus for now

Code

Good thing I wasn't asking you then isn't it

My middle name is gut UwU

If Xia is mafia Shigad is her partner

Luka

Wolfy:

Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
Shigad Towny:
Luka
Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt) POE:
Kazuma
Frosted
Code
Owl

Also Caitlin if you are referring to this list when you said I wasn’t put on, I told everyone at the start they can call me Nocti or Owl.

Most new mafia put there partners at null actuallly...

2:22 p.m.

Xia is probably conf biasing Shig town sadcat

Code

If Xia is mafia Shigad is her partner

Highly doubt xia is scum here

See you guys in a bit...

NoctiChill

Also Caitlin if you are referring to this list when you said I wasn’t put on, I told everyone at the start they can call me Nocti or Owl.

I realise now I should have probably asked you guys to just call me Nocti.. two names will overcomplicate things

Well shige is scum either way imo

2:22 p.m.

So

but i also know shig's play last game and he's not acting much of any different from what i can tell

Xiaysa

but i also know shig's play last game and he's not acting much of any different from what i can tell

Go reread his opening in both

still got the same feel to him as last game imo

Code

Go reread his opening in both

i don't like judging based on opening alone

NoctiChill

I realise now I should have probably asked you guys to just call me Nocti.. two names will overcomplicate things

If you had to randomly lynch someone right now who would it be?

Xiaysa

i don't like judging based on opening alone

That's exactly what you're doing by making a reads list this early

uhm (Kazuma)

If you had to randomly lynch someone right now who would it be?

I really have no clue

Code

That's exactly what you're doing by making a reads list this early

true, but doesn't mean i like it

Wow so towney not...

Xiaysa

true, but doesn't mean i like it

Your lack of willingness to look at shig is sus

2:25 p.m.

One mafia in Code / Xia... sadcat

Code

Your lack of willingness to look at shig is sus

it's too early for me to be sure of my reads anyways, tho i'm up for the idea of shig being sus too

2:25 p.m.

that's just what i can tell as of now

2:25 p.m.

and it's very well prone to change

2:26 p.m.

i don't have a partner this game, so i gotta pull my own weight here

Luka

One mafia in Code / Xia... sadcat

Code/luka

uhm (Kazuma)

Code/luka

Wow those are 2 names!

2:26 p.m.

Good on u!

NoctiChill

Also Caitlin if you are referring to this list when you said I wasn’t put on, I told everyone at the start they can call me Nocti or Owl.

The one right before that didn't have you on it

2:29 p.m.

This is the fixed version with you on it

Caitlin

The one right before that didn't have you on it

Ohhhh

2:30 p.m.

Mb

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

POE:
- Kazuma
- Frosted
- Code
- Silver

This one

I see

uhm (Kazuma)

Code/luka

Luka/Kaz

Xiaysa

i don't have a partner this game, so i gotta pull my own weight here

You're very uncommitted

2:35 p.m.

Tbh I'm not gonna lie

2:35 p.m.

I'm actually towning Xia rn

Code

You're very uncommitted

yeah sorry, i'm tired after a long car ride which i got home from just a lil while before the game started so sorta braindead rn

2:35 p.m.

so i'm doing what i can as of now

Town

Luka
Xia Not town
Everyone else

Code

Town

Luka
Xia Not town
Everyone else

Damn we're playing reverse mafia huh

Luka

Damn we're playing reverse mafia huh

Xia's comment about not having a partner, having had a partner in 2 consecutive games, feels very honest

2:37 p.m.

You idk I'm just balling

Code

You idk I'm just balling

Im 100% out of my scum range frfr

Luka

Im 100% out of my scum range frfr

I know that's not true but I'll believe it anyway

Im a polarized noob frfr

2:39 p.m.

One in Xiu / Code Luka / Kazuma / Cait town

2:41 p.m.

Codes conclusion feels hyper forced and TMI ridden

2:41 p.m.

Xiu I layed about 50 rxn tests and she responded wrong to all of them

Luka

Codes conclusion feels hyper forced and TMI ridden

Now who can't read who

Code

Now who can't read who

Uhm...

2:43 p.m.

Ur mum...

..lol?

Ur towning me for no reason & towning Xiu for fakable reasons w/o looking at her whole ISO sadcat

I explained why I owned you, the reason was wrong but I kept it anyway bc it felt right

2:45 p.m.

And what is there to iso, I already said she sounds normal to me and I've played with her twice. You've played with her 0 times

2:45 p.m.

And its day 1

You... own me YancyBlush

Its meme lhase

2:46 p.m.

towned*

Okay master...

You can't say my meta on her is worse than your read when you know 0 about her and I do

I fr cant I just dont care enough to be so fr... sadcat

Can you say that again but in English

I dun care she's wolfy NightingaleAngry

L is for Luka

Code

L is for Luka

to do things together, u is for u and me!!!!

2:48 p.m.

n is for anything and anytime at all, down in the deep blue sea!!!!

Xia is town and as of rn I will die on that hill

Dw, you'll die MenheraKnife

Yeah I will when shig nks me

Ill follow your legacy fr... sadcat

Never been mislynched btw

Code

Yeah I will when shig nks me

@Dragon You would neverrrr MenheraPlead

Code

Never been mislynched btw

I'm smug dw!

?

I'm getting you lynched today just cause you said that!

2:50 p.m.

Now lets see if it's a mislynch fr...

Go on then

Not yet, when the time is right SmugDance

Coward

More like I'm on my phone and I'm about to enter a lecture fr...

Takes you less time to vote me than it does to write that message

Nah, if I'm voting you I'm forcing the entire game too

Which you could easily do later

That aside, I can just kill you through other methods if I want EXLusamineGUNtm

But apparently they both have to be done at the same time ig

Mmhm!

Luka

That aside, I can just kill you through other methods if I want EXLusamineGUNtm

Vig claim

You get it!

Code

Vig claim

Never.. why would I ever claim vig sadcat

Why would you pr hunt earlier

2:53 p.m.

Same reason ig

Code

Why would you pr hunt earlier

Wow you noticed that and both didn't call it out, and didn't document Xia going to scum chat frozen and crying... sadcat

2:54 p.m.

@Xiaysa DW! I'll protet you! MenheraLove

What

From the evil Code...

Why would I call it out

Code

What

Well, are you the vig?

2:54 p.m.

If I was this game would be over

@sunny Stop clicking on the chat box plz, we notice you typing and it's distrating me </3

And how could i document xia going to scum chat when 1 I'm not in scum chat 2. She's not mafia

Code

If I was this game would be over

Dw, you're dying tonight... sadcat

Code

And how could i document xia going to scum chat when 1 I'm not in scum chat 2. She's not mafia

Damn, so you're claiming mafia? MenharaThink

Luka

@sunny Stop clicking on the chat box plz, we notice you typing and it's distrating me </3

what did i do

i wasn't even in discord

Luka

@Xiaysa DW! I'll protet you! MenheraLove

why would you protect me if you find me wolfy tho? just wondering

Luka

Damn, so you're claiming mafia? MenharaThink

not in scum chat

sunny

what did i do

i wasn't even in discord

It shows u typing..

Code

not in scum chat

But, you said Xiu wasn't mafia, not that you weren't... sadcat

Luka

It shows u typing..

It does @sunny

i wasn't

Xiaysa

why would you protect me if you find me wolfy tho? just wondering

You're fr wolfy, but I think you're cute asf so MenheraWink2

Luka

But, you said Xiu wasn't mafia, not that you weren't... sadcat

I said I'M not in scum chat (meaning I'm not mafia) as well

Code

I said I'M not in scum chat (meaning I'm not mafia) as well

What if ur a wolf who isn't in scumchat Alola1Chuuni

No such role in the games

2:56 p.m.

Game

2:56 p.m.

This game

Wow this conversation is so pure and innocent..

Luka

You're fr wolfy, but I think you're cute asf so MenheraWink2

thanks for the compliment, you're a chaotic lil cutie yourself AG_WinkShhh

You're boring me, I'm gonna go do work

2:56 p.m.

Ttyl

cya

Xiaysa

cya

Not you btw

nws

2:57 p.m.

Wolfy:
- dragon_writer
- Xiaysa
- CreatedByCode

Towny:
- phone0ix
- dangerous_luka
- chillinglilowl
- gypyx
- bigscaryblackman69

Null:
- thesilversceptor
- frostedcrystal

2:58 p.m.

fr..

That capitalisation is disgusting

Code

That capitalisation is disgusting

Go do some work! MenheraBunnyWave

Go eat my ass

Unless you wanna chat some more MenharaBlush

Code

Go eat my ass

Sorry, gypyx has my heart...

That isn't in the ass tho

Code is probably town for this annoyanec unless they're wolf then I'm annoyed MenheraSigh

Code

That isn't in the ass tho

Luka

Code is probably town for this annoyanec unless they're wolf then I'm annoyed MenheraSigh

Fun fact: I hate it when people fake annoyance!

2:59 p.m.

Despise it!

2:59 p.m.

Anyways!

Luka

Fun fact: I hate it when people fake annoyance!

~Hypocrit fr...~~

3:00 p.m.

aa

I'm British I'm always annoyed

Code

I'm British I'm always annoyed

OH MY GOD ITS A BRIT

3:00 p.m.

@Grace, I assume MURDER IT WITH FIRE

3:00 p.m.

Luka

Yeah sounds good

Code

Yeah sounds good

Nvm ur town.. sadcat

We'll put all the brits in a school and let you shoot them up

3:00 p.m.

Good target practice

3:01 p.m.

Most of us are fat anyway

3:01 p.m.

Like you lot

3:01 p.m.

One second, had to get a close up

Luka

Wolfy:
- dragon_writer
- Xiaysa
- CreatedByCode

Towny:
- phone0ix
- dangerous_luka
- chillinglilowl
- gypyx
- bigscaryblackman69

Null:
- thesilversceptor
- frostedcrystal

@Xiaysa Hi Xia!

3:01 p.m.

Are you there MenheraCurious1

Helloo, i'm here

3:02 p.m.

what's up?

Xiaysa

what's up?

Can you give me a reads list?

3:02 p.m.

Also, are you vig? Cause if not I think you're mafia MenheraCurious1

You are under no obligation to answer this question

Code

You are under no obligation to answer this question

Stop white knighting fr...

Luka

Stop white knighting fr...

Stop vig hunting then

Code

Stop vig hunting then

Take this talk to scum chat, I'll show you the way to wolf AnimeGirlWink

Code

Town

Luka
Xia Not town
Everyone else

Why is luka town?

uhm (Kazuma)

Why is luka town?

Vibes

uhm (Kazuma)

Why is luka town?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/TMI

TMI

Originally towned him for something that turned out to be a joke

3:04 p.m.

Kept it anyway bc I could

3:04 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma)

Code

Xia is town and as of rn I will die on that hill

Same

Kazuma is wolfy too rn wtf...

3:06 p.m.

Wolfy:
- dragon_writer
- Xiaysa
- CreatedByCode

Towny:
- phone0ix
- dangerous_luka
- chillinglilowl

Null:
- thesilversceptor
- frostedcrystal
- gypyx
- bigscaryblackman69

3:06 p.m.

Hm.

3:06 p.m.

Xia / Kazuma w/w tbh..

uhm (Kazuma)

Same

Code dies tn, u can die on that hill tmr.. sadcat

i'll neither deny nor confirm that as of now as for my reads list; Scum (?):

Kaz

Town (?):

Code
Luka
Cait
gypyx

Unsure:

Silver
Frosted

But i'm still unsure on any of these ngl, too tired to trust my guts 99Aheh

Xiaysa

i'll neither deny nor confirm that as of now as for my reads list; Scum (?):

Kaz

Town (?):

Code
Luka
Cait
gypyx

Unsure:

Silver
Frosted

But i'm still unsure on any of these ngl, too tired to trust my guts 99Aheh

Deny it or confirm it. I have a hard read on you as either mafia or vigilante. If you don't deny or confirm it, I will hell tunnel you and I can force you out of this game.

3:08 p.m.

Deny or confirm :p

3:08 p.m.

If you're vig: 1. You can live if you confirm it If you're mafia: 1. You can bait out a CC by confirming it

3:08 p.m.

Either way, it's confirm it or die!

Luka

Kazuma is wolfy too rn wtf...

Ik its memephase or whatever but your list is everywhere

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

Gypyx

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

Yeah..

uhm (Kazuma)

Ik its memephase or whatever but your list is everywhere

It's not memephase tho

3:08 p.m.

I'm always everywhere!

3:09 p.m.

@Gypyx Do you know Alisae?

Luka

@Gypyx Do you know Alisae?

not personally but i do know her yeah

Gypyx

not personally but i do know her yeah

Mafiascum players..

LMAO

@Gypyx How does ur signup queue work it's uhm, to put it bluntly, cancer to use

we do it old fashioned style

Xiaysa

i'll neither deny nor confirm that as of now as for my reads list; Scum (?):

Kaz

Town (?):

Code
Luka
Cait
gypyx

Unsure:

Silver
Frosted

But i'm still unsure on any of these ngl, too tired to trust my guts 99Aheh

You too?

you have a mod keeping track of what games are currently in

3:10 p.m.

and you send a message saying which game you wanna get in

Luka

If you're vig: 1. You can live if you confirm it If you're mafia: 1. You can bait out a CC by confirming it

If you’re vig don’t answer

Gypyx

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

Wdym?

uhm (Kazuma)

If you’re vig don’t answer

If you're vig answer or you die MenheraNekoXD

Luka

Deny it or confirm it. I have a hard read on you as either mafia or vigilante. If you don't deny or confirm it, I will hell tunnel you and I can force you out of this game.

it's fine if you'd like to hell tunnel me, because i know i am neither, even if you think I am it's up to you if you want target me still

It's a yes or a yes, either way you answer yes or you die MenheraNekoXD

Xiaysa

it's fine if you'd like to hell tunnel me, because i know i am neither, even if you think I am it's up to you if you want target me still

Omg okay..

You don't scare me

I exist

3:11 p.m.

Kind of

Onto code!

Where do I read from

Xiaysa

You don't scare me

Imma go find where I left off lmao

TheSilverScepter

Where do I read from

IDK!

uhm (Kazuma)

Wdym?

you're not saying anything that reallys grabs attention in any way

3:11 p.m.

and your solving feels really contained

Gypyx

and you send a message saying which game you wanna get in

I just never know what games are in signs

Luka

Team America has infiltrated this game as well I see /j

TheSilverScepter

Team America has infiltrated this game as well I see /j

AMERICA!!

Gypyx

you're not saying anything that reallys grabs attention in any way

Id argue that Thats just me though

Luka

I just never know what games are in signs

it got a bit better, we have a thread dedicated to keeping track of which games are currently in signups

See the problem is discord mafia is rly bad to get reads..

sadly it's also not always up to date lol

hello everyone! WaveFast

Luka

See the problem is discord mafia is rly bad to get reads..

esp when I never play here..

Gypyx

sadly it's also not always up to date lol

o

frosted ✧

hello everyone! WaveFast

OMG HI FROSTED!

3:12 p.m.

I DUN KNOW YOU BUT MenheraBunnyWave

hihihi!

HIHIHIIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

3:13 p.m.

OMG UR SO TOWNY

3:13 p.m.

WOW UR TOWN

3:13 p.m.

THIS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY LACKS TMI

3:13 p.m.

UR THE TOWNIEST TOWN OT EVER TOWN

uhm (Kazuma)

Id argue that Thats just me though

can people stop acting scummy as a personality trait pls

Gypyx

can people stop acting scummy as a personality trait pls

Me fr...

3:13 p.m.

ヾ(｡>﹏<｡)ﾉﾞ✧。Girl8oss alertヾ(｡>﹏<｡)ﾉﾞ✧。

yes

3:13 p.m.

that's my status

3:14 p.m.

it contains a memetic kill agent for a special kind of people

Gypyx

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

Normal Kaz behaviour

Gypyx

can people stop acting scummy as a personality trait pls

Its fun

i'm gonna start policy limming

Gypyx

i'm gonna start policy limming

Policy me fr..

3:14 p.m.

Anyways, I'm bored! MenheraWave5

3:14 p.m.

Bai!

Luka

Policy me fr..

i would never hurt you you're too precious

Gypyx

i would never hurt you you're too precious

3:14 p.m.

Omg!!!

Ugh

Yay!

Yall are so cringe

Luka

DW Silver is experienced...

I’m going to assume you mean this in the DM sense and not the mafia sense lmao

@Luka voting me over your actual susses despite the fact your stopping of sussing xia is in line with what I've said from the start

3:15 p.m.

you make 0 sense

TheSilverScepter

I’m going to assume you mean this in the DM sense and not the mafia sense lmao

I mean it in the mafia sense... Hence why the kinda :p

ever

Code

@Luka voting me over your actual susses despite the fact your stopping of sussing xia is in line with what I've said from the start

... Why do you think I don't sus you SeleneLul

You don't sus me over kaz/xia

3:16 p.m.

And I can only be paired with Kaz based on your progression

Code

@Luka voting me over your actual susses despite the fact your stopping of sussing xia is in line with what I've said from the start

Ive only played one notable game with luka and this is very different from that

3:17 p.m.

Like veryyyy

Why are you so hyper focused on me in the first place? Your two reads this game are me and Xia town, you gave conflicting reasons on why Xia is town (IE: Meta, and the fact that she has no partner feels genuine) w/ the former being very easily fakalbe and you should know it, your reason on me being town is literally nothing given nothing of what I've done is outside of my scum range and you aknowledged that, you're pressuring me to vote Xia over you (somebody you said you would die on the hill that they're town), you're complaining about me vig hunting but doing nothing about it, not treating Xia in good faith. Your solving is narrow and contains no content outside of two people, you're not treating slots in good faith and you're "solving" once again has no logic outside of it, IE: Cait has 108 posts, the majority of which with content and you have nothing to say on them.

Luka

Why are you so hyper focused on me in the first place? Your two reads this game are me and Xia town, you gave conflicting reasons on why Xia is town (IE: Meta, and the fact that she has no partner feels genuine) w/ the former being very easily fakalbe and you should know it, your reason on me being town is literally nothing given nothing of what I've done is outside of my scum range and you aknowledged that, you're pressuring me to vote Xia over you (somebody you said you would die on the hill that they're town), you're complaining about me vig hunting but doing nothing about it, not treating Xia in good faith. Your solving is narrow and contains no content outside of two people, you're not treating slots in good faith and you're "solving" once again has no logic outside of it, IE: Cait has 108 posts, the majority of which with content and you have nothing to say on them.

Wdym hyoer focused on you

uhm (Kazuma)

Ive only played one notable game with luka and this is very different from that

It's cause I normally multitable, and I'mnot rn Hehe

I haven't sussed you once

Code

Wdym hyoer focused on you

You're not treating other slots in any faith whatsoever. The majority of your content is adressed towards me despite not wanting to interact w/ me, and you're not reviewing new content.

Luka

I mean it in the mafia sense... Hence why the kinda :p

I’ve played mafia for over like, 2 years now, help

TheSilverScepter

I’ve played mafia for over like, 2 years now, help

Omg wait u have..

3:18 p.m.

Okay, Silver is experienced..

3:18 p.m.

I not very smart @TheSilverScepter MenheraPlead

3:19 p.m.

omg @TheSilverScepter That means you're at the stage where u can carry me

3:19 p.m.

GL!!!

Bitch

3:20 p.m.

Anyways

3:20 p.m.

Catch up

3:20 p.m.

Yes

Luka

Why are you so hyper focused on me in the first place? Your two reads this game are me and Xia town, you gave conflicting reasons on why Xia is town (IE: Meta, and the fact that she has no partner feels genuine) w/ the former being very easily fakalbe and you should know it, your reason on me being town is literally nothing given nothing of what I've done is outside of my scum range and you aknowledged that, you're pressuring me to vote Xia over you (somebody you said you would die on the hill that they're town), you're complaining about me vig hunting but doing nothing about it, not treating Xia in good faith. Your solving is narrow and contains no content outside of two people, you're not treating slots in good faith and you're "solving" once again has no logic outside of it, IE: Cait has 108 posts, the majority of which with content and you have nothing to say on them.

"Conflicting reasons" those don't conflict whatsoever I don't HAVE a reason on you being town, I said it and the reason was wrong so now it's vibes but if you're so convinced it's out of your range why are you whining I'm not "pressuring" you to do anyrhing I just don't see the logic in voting me based on your progression and I said as much and said it ONCE. I also never said vote xia. How have I not treated xia in good faith. My solving is narrow because I've had a shit last three games where I put my 110% effort in and it blew up in my face. I'm depressed and burned out and just don't want to be center of attention pushing my thoughts for no one to listen to me for JUST ONE GAME. Again how am I not treating people in good faith. Re the wait thing, haven't iso'd her. Its day 1 meme phase. And you're treating me like I'm you and can inherently see what is content and what isn't

3:21 p.m.

Please just get the fuck off my back I just want to chill.

Luka

You're not treating other slots in any faith whatsoever. The majority of your content is adressed towards me despite not wanting to interact w/ me, and you're not reviewing new content.

Oh yeah lemme just go find the new content kn between all the "omg ur so cuuuuuuuute11111!!1!1 here's 1057372992 anime emotes to show just how uwu I am please love me"

3:22 p.m.

Leave me alone

Code

"Conflicting reasons" those don't conflict whatsoever I don't HAVE a reason on you being town, I said it and the reason was wrong so now it's vibes but if you're so convinced it's out of your range why are you whining I'm not "pressuring" you to do anyrhing I just don't see the logic in voting me based on your progression and I said as much and said it ONCE. I also never said vote xia. How have I not treated xia in good faith. My solving is narrow because I've had a shit last three games where I put my 110% effort in and it blew up in my face. I'm depressed and burned out and just don't want to be center of attention pushing my thoughts for no one to listen to me for JUST ONE GAME. Again how am I not treating people in good faith. Re the wait thing, haven't iso'd her. Its day 1 meme phase. And you're treating me like I'm you and can inherently see what is content and what isn't

*cait

WTF!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!

3:25 p.m.

aaa

TheSilverScepter

Bitch

Meant to respond to this.

Code

"Conflicting reasons" those don't conflict whatsoever I don't HAVE a reason on you being town, I said it and the reason was wrong so now it's vibes but if you're so convinced it's out of your range why are you whining I'm not "pressuring" you to do anyrhing I just don't see the logic in voting me based on your progression and I said as much and said it ONCE. I also never said vote xia. How have I not treated xia in good faith. My solving is narrow because I've had a shit last three games where I put my 110% effort in and it blew up in my face. I'm depressed and burned out and just don't want to be center of attention pushing my thoughts for no one to listen to me for JUST ONE GAME. Again how am I not treating people in good faith. Re the wait thing, haven't iso'd her. Its day 1 meme phase. And you're treating me like I'm you and can inherently see what is content and what isn't

1. Yes they do, you stated the former as the first reason and then reflectively switched to the later reason later 2. Coolio, it's not out of my range and I'm saying you're TMIing bullshit with no reason. 3. right before that you questioned why I was voting you over Xia, and seemingly tried to convince me to vote otherwise. 4. You're not considering all of there content 5. Just low post and flake, and then tell people to fuck off if they push you. Or don't respond, not that hard; fucking lbowing up and then going JUST ONE GAME is not the way. Also, the AtE is kind of disgusting here. 6. You're not considering there content and your solving is narrow, as adressed in point 5. 7. Everybody can, if it contributes to the game it's content, simple.

Code

Oh yeah lemme just go find the new content kn between all the "omg ur so cuuuuuuuute11111!!1!1 here's 1057372992 anime emotes to show just how uwu I am please love me"

Not very hard.

Caitlin

Thats strange then

Strange in what way?

Luka

Wolfy:
- Xia (Take w/ a grain of salt) 
- Silver (Take w/ a grain of salt) (Mostly cause they didn't mention something about a town streak)
- Shigad 
Towny:
- Luka
- Caitlin (Take w/ a grain of salt)
- Gypyx (Take w/ a grain of salt)

I-

Luka

1. Yes they do, you stated the former as the first reason and then reflectively switched to the later reason later 2. Coolio, it's not out of my range and I'm saying you're TMIing bullshit with no reason. 3. right before that you questioned why I was voting you over Xia, and seemingly tried to convince me to vote otherwise. 4. You're not considering all of there content 5. Just low post and flake, and then tell people to fuck off if they push you. Or don't respond, not that hard; fucking lbowing up and then going JUST ONE GAME is not the way. Also, the AtE is kind of disgusting here. 6. You're not considering there content and your solving is narrow, as adressed in point 5. 7. Everybody can, if it contributes to the game it's content, simple.

1. Conflicting = contradicting and they literally are not. I didn't state it "later" I said it right at the start of the game when gyp was sussing xia 2. You said it was so go stick your bullshit down your throat 3. I said over xia or kaz given if you town xia you should logically town me 4. See previous point about content 5.go fuck yourself, I'm not even reading the rest of this

3:30 p.m.

Leave me alone

3:30 p.m.

Stop talking to me

3:30 p.m.

I need a break from you

Code is town FTR.

3:32 p.m.

If they're not town, then I'm just gonna add them to my "policy if they use AtE list"

3:33 p.m.

Town:
- Code
- Xia
- Luka
- Cait

Luka

If they're not town, then I'm just gonna add them to my "policy if they use AtE list"

Since this is kinda bullshit and I CBA to deal with it.

3:34 p.m.

For the record though, no matter what; upon being accused you just responded w/ spam posting AtE w/o actually midigating the points at hand.

3:36 p.m.

Meh, I'll stop complaining.

3:36 p.m.

Just, upon being accused in the future, please either do more or mitigate the points. Don't tell people to go fuck themselves or "stick" "bullshit down the throat" since that's just unfun to deal with. At the end of the day it's just a game, especailly in a newcomer game in which people don't really want to be exposed to a toxic enviorment.

i said stop talking to me

Not going to do that, it's just a game. Stop responding if you wish, don't repsond with bullshit AtE making the game unfun for both of us

dickhead

Uhm

Code

dickhead

3:39 p.m.

Uhm

3:39 p.m.

Probably just kill Kazuma today?

Thats okay and all

3:41 p.m.

But I fail to see why

You're... Mafia?

I am not

3:43 p.m.

I meant why you think so

You randed it...

3:47 p.m.

I was gone for like 30 minutes because of class

3:48 p.m.

I’m not going to ask what happened and just

3:48 p.m.

Resume my catch up that was interrupted

3:53 p.m.

I’m going to go ahead and call Luka/Code not w/w for this right now

3:53 p.m.

The emotions feel too genuine on both ends in a way that doesn’t feel orchestrated

3:53 p.m.

More so that the emotions are genuine from the start as well

3:54 p.m.

I feel like there’d be some sort of awkward air at the beginning if this was orchestrated scum theatre

3:55 p.m.

Inclined to call it v/v right now off of how stubborn both sides seem paired with the emotions that are coming off

3:56 p.m.

I’m more used to seeing Luka being aggressive and combative as town, attacking angles that catch his attention without hesitation

3:56 p.m.

Luka is the stronger town read out of the two

3:56 p.m.

Man it feels like I’m writing a lot when it really isn’t lmao

3:57 p.m.

Just seeing blocks of text from me is funny

I'm going to bed but I know people will be on my ass so I'll explain now, the only time I have ever actively disrespected someone's feelings has been as mafia and idc if luka is town or mafia atp that's a policy for me

TheSilverScepter

Inclined to call it v/v right now off of how stubborn both sides seem paired with the emotions that are coming off

I'm not really being stubborn given I'm actively calling him town.

4:43 p.m.

But, okay.

TheSilverScepter

Luka is the stronger town read out of the two

Yeh

Code

I'm going to bed but I know people will be on my ass so I'll explain now, the only time I have ever actively disrespected someone's feelings has been as mafia and idc if luka is town or mafia atp that's a policy for me

I'm not actively disrespecting you're feelings, I'm calling you wolf in which your response has been to spam AtE, which is just unfun to play with.

4:44 p.m.

I switched to calling you town, since if you're wolf I'm just going to avoid playing w/ you in the future.

"him"

4:44 p.m.

and yes you are whether you intend to or not

Code

"him"

Apologies, I'm dense.

4:44 p.m.

Them

it isn't the wolf shit that bothers me

4:45 p.m.

I'm not that sensitive

Code

and yes you are whether you intend to or not

Which, it's clear that I do not at this point. And, how am I disrespecting your feelings? ConfusedPika

You can't just, accuse me of that w/o saying, how.

Code

it isn't the wolf shit that bothers me

Then.. What is it?

I'm not accusing you of anything, you disrespected my feelings and that's how I feel

.. How?

I'm not having this argument with you in game when everything I say will just be called "ate bullshit"

4:46 p.m.

You won't listen to me and I'm not opening myself up to someone who will throw it in my face

Okay, so you just aren't going to say how I'm insulting you, yet you'll vote me for it?

If you actually care about understanding me then ask me after the game, if you only care about it game relatedly then I'm not going to engage

Like, explain to me what exactly I'm doing wrong here if you expect anything to improve. Just going "you're hurting my feelings" both doesn't tell me how I'm hurting your feelings, and doesn't elaborate on why you think that I'm a good policy vote. It also doesn't justify a vote here.

Code

If you actually care about understanding me then ask me after the game, if you only care about it game relatedly then I'm not going to engage

Oh no, I care. I care whenever somebody calls me rude, as I think everybody should xD

4:48 p.m.

I mean, if I'm making things unfun for players I avoid playing w/ them, as I don't think it's conductive to a good enviorment.

I don't care about justifying a vote. I'm not trying to get you lynched I'm just voting you personally.

4:51 p.m.

You disagreeing isn't going to change that and again. I'm not opening myself up to more of what hurt me before.

... What hurt you though?

5:07 p.m.

Like, you're complaining about being hurt without saying anything.

5:07 p.m.

I don't intentionally hurt peoples feelings and we can both agree, so if its a sensitive topic it's not like I'll go out of my way to hurt you.

I’m going to step in and just give my outside perspective

5:14 p.m.

I think Code is saying that you dismissing their emotions to “AtE bullshit” is their problem

5:14 p.m.

Sometimes emotions aren’t intended to come off as AtE and when they get reduced to AtE, then it can be invalidating at times

5:15 p.m.

On the opposite end, Luka is taking it as a more AtE angle because emotions in mafia is typically associated with being AtE

5:15 p.m.

Really I think it’d be more productive if you both manage to ignore the other for a bit and prioritize interacting with other people

5:15 p.m.

You both have your reads on each other and that’s ultimately what matters

5:17 p.m.

@Code I know it’s a bit difficult considering your emotions, but can you use your vote on people who you suspect? From what I can tell, your vote is on Luka due to what happened and not due to a read, correct me if I’m wrong on this.

TheSilverScepter

On the opposite end, Luka is taking it as a more AtE angle because emotions in mafia is typically associated with being AtE

Nah, I think that it's genuine at this point.

5:20 p.m.

I also don't think it was a very conductive way to respond to an FoS. IE: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224438560627888288

5:20 p.m.

Like, I kind of get being frustrated. but it's just not really conductive to playing the game in a proper way.

Luka

Nah, I think that it's genuine at this point.

At this point, yea

TheSilverScepter

Really I think it’d be more productive if you both manage to ignore the other for a bit and prioritize interacting with other people

Nyaa, I'm doing this tho- I'm actively re-evaluating on them and calling them town, so I'm a bit confused here ConfusedPika

TheSilverScepter

You both have your reads on each other and that’s ultimately what matters

Omg true... sadcat

5:21 p.m.

So philosophical MenharaThink

TheSilverScepter

@Code I know it’s a bit difficult considering your emotions, but can you use your vote on people who you suspect? From what I can tell, your vote is on Luka due to what happened and not due to a read, correct me if I’m wrong on this.

Do you have any reads? MenheraCurious1

I’m trying to look at it from the original angle and conversation cause it seems like emotions are still lingering

I see.

Help

5:21 p.m.

The period is so threatening

Not for me, I haven't really shown what I thought MenheraCurious1

TheSilverScepter

The period is so threatening

Noted.

5:22 p.m.

I will consider that in the future.

5:22 p.m.

(/j)

Luka

Do you have any reads? MenheraCurious1

You and Code are town right now

TheSilverScepter

You and Code are town right now

Anything else?

5:22 p.m.

I’ve liked Cait’s interactions with people so far

5:22 p.m.

I’m going off of memory

5:22 p.m.

Bear with me

Gg you're town... sadcat

5:22 p.m.

@TheSilverScepter You're town right?

5:22 p.m.

You can carry me right?

Yep :3

Luka

You can carry me right?

You invited me

5:22 p.m.

You carry me

Omg you agreed to carrying me!

5:22 p.m.

Yay!

TheSilverScepter

You carry me

Wait wtf... sadcat

This is the burden of bringing new people

5:22 p.m.

You’re now my carry

Town:
- Code
- Silver
- Luka
- Cait

Light Town:
- Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.

Lowkey I forget that some people are in this game off of quiet/not seeing enough from

TheSilverScepter

You’re now my carry

There's a difference check between Kazuma / Gypyx ^^Y

5:23 p.m.

A

Gypyx (I hope I spelled that right) is like

5:23 p.m.

They’ve done stuff

5:23 p.m.

But I can’t remember anything significant that points me to their alignment

Luka

There's a difference check between Kazuma / Gypyx ^^Y

What led you to this?

5:24 p.m.

Any specific interaction I should read between them

5:24 p.m.

Or is it off of treatment of each other

TheSilverScepter

What led you to this?

POE + Gyp FOSd Kazuma w/o acting on it and Kazuma acted poorly upon seeing it MenheraCurious1

Ah

TheSilverScepter

But I can’t remember anything significant that points me to their alignment

that sounds like a skill issue on your part

Speak of the damn devil

5:25 p.m.

If you FOS’d Kaz, why not vote them as well?

TheSilverScepter

Speak of the damn devil

Omg you're speaking of me!!! AcerolaYay

Gypyx

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Cute!

5:25 p.m.

TheSilverScepter

If you FOS’d Kaz, why not vote them as well?

i was more chatting in between 2 things so not bothering with my vote

I just went to go check vote history and it’s just interesting to me that you didn’t vote

Gypyx

i was more chatting in between 2 things so not bothering with my vote

I see

besides it's plurality so i'm in no rush

Kaz off of memory is largely null

5:26 p.m.

Same with like

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.

5:26 p.m.

Uhm..

5:26 p.m.

Any other name I didn’t bring up kek

Frosted just seems pure?

5:26 p.m.

But I dun like reading new ppl..

right

5:26 p.m.

They’re the new person I was thinking of

5:26 p.m.

That thought they just sounded lost

5:27 p.m.

It gives like reserved, hesitant energy that most new people have

5:27 p.m.

I see a vote on Kaz has been cast lmao

Nocti is super duper null but I'm going to pretend like they're town MenheraCurious1

5:27 p.m.

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Frosted (Maybe? Seems pure, but not sure on this)

5:27 p.m.

One evil defo in Gyp / Kazuma MenheraCurious2

interesting, what makes this not T/T?

5:32 p.m.

i want luka's natural answer pls

5:32 p.m.

don't chime in

Luka

One evil defo in Gyp / Kazuma MenheraCurious2

Can you point me to where Gyp FOS’d Kaz and Kaz’s reaction?

5:32 p.m.

I want my own look on this lmao

Gypyx

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

here

Got it

5:33 p.m.

Thanks

Luka

POE + Gyp FOSd Kazuma w/o acting on it and Kazuma acted poorly upon seeing it MenheraCurious1

Whats a FOSD?

Finger of suspicion'd

Oh

5:34 p.m.

Ty

Gypyx

Kazuma is very agressively full and i'm not a fan of that

What do you mean by “aggressively full”?

5:39 p.m.

It’s not a phrase I think I’ve heard commonly

agressively null*

Gypyx

interesting, what makes this not T/T?

I have a hard scum read on one of you and I'm fishing for spew MenheraBlushHide1

Gypyx

agressively null*

Ah, that makes more sense sense

Gypyx

you're not saying anything that reallys grabs attention in any way

To poke into your mind a bit, does this naturally make someone wolfy?

Luka

I have a hard scum read on one of you and I'm fishing for spew MenheraBlushHide1

I can understand people being reserved is one thing, but I’m reading that as like they’re not having hard/interesting takes

TheSilverScepter

To poke into your mind a bit, does this naturally make someone wolfy?

i feel like going for scummy people on a raw level can often backfire (at least how i do it) while this kind of weird area where you can't get opinions on people is also a zone where a lot of scums fall

Mhm

5:42 p.m.

Is it more so that Kaz is being floppy on takes/not taking a stance?

5:42 p.m.

Rather than like not being attention grabbing

if you wanna put it like that then yeah

Because to me those are slightly different things and mean different things as well

5:42 p.m.

Got it, more so being hedgy

floppy i wouldn't say that no

Mmm

it's just that her solving process feel really slow basically

Ah

5:43 p.m.

Got it

5:43 p.m.

That makes more sense in my mind now

5:43 p.m.

I did read her reaction to your sus and I can see why Luka thinks it’s a poor reaction

also yeah

It’s very, tepid? Kinda timid almost

5:44 p.m.

It feels not assured, if that makes sense

5:44 p.m.

Hello! Speak of the devil

Gypyx

if you wanna put it like that then yeah

Wdym im not taking a stance

Gypyx

it's just that her solving process feel really slow basically

He.

my bad

Ah, that’s my bad as well

i remember seeing pink in your name, thought it was the pronoun field lol

Dw

uhm (Kazuma)

Wdym im not taking a stance

Ive been confident in my reads

uhm (Kazuma)

Wdym im not taking a stance

how would you summarize the thougts you've currently had this game?

Limited ig

Can you summarize your reads right now so that I can get an idea of where you’re at

5:52 p.m.

I’ll do the same when I’m home, I wanna do what Luka does and summarize them in a box lmao

anyways, reads now that i'm home

6:28 p.m.

Town: Cait, Code, Luka
Lightly town: Frosted (off of seeming lost and kid of pure right now)
Above null: Gypyx
Everyone else exists

TheSilverScepter

Can you summarize your reads right now so that I can get an idea of where you’re at

@uhm (Kazuma) would like for a reads list at some point if possible!

All I’ve said is that there’s one in code/luka and that xia is town.

Does your opinion change at all after seeing Code and Luka's interaction?

No

6:36 p.m.

Im stubborn

6:36 p.m.

Shifted from thinking it was code

6:37 p.m.

To thinking it is luka

any reason why or

6:39 p.m.

i'm always going to prod for more explanation so get used to me asking why lmao

Gut

6:40 p.m.

Gave a bit of reasoning for luka though

6:40 p.m.

Iirc

Gypyx

10:20 p.m.

If you want a serious answer, mostly vibes + POE

10:20 p.m.

I have only a solid read on Code but I think they're kind of obvious.

10:20 p.m.

I think that both you and Kazuma are kinda wolfy, but not s/s.

Gypyx

it's just that her solving process feel really slow basically

I kinda disagree, I just think that her solving is. Boring

10:22 p.m.

To be honest, I think full is a good scum case against her

10:23 p.m.

His ISO is just agressively game relaed.

10:23 p.m.

related*

Luka

To be honest, I think full is a good scum case against her

his*

sowwy

10:23 p.m.

I think Silver is just villager?

10:23 p.m.

Sorry if wrong, tinfoil on Silver in LYLO if she's alive.

@Caitlin @Xiaysa @Gypyx what are your thoughts on Luka, you guys?

2:05 a.m.

Or you girls, I guess

2:06 a.m.

I'm like not feeling towny vibes from them

2:06 a.m.

But I also have read very little so far

hmm i'd say luka seems rather towny, and is just acting in a way that makes them hard to read but they do seem to be actively looking for scum

2:09 a.m.

so i'd trust them for niw

2:10 a.m.

now*

Well shouldn't you convince the people you town that xia isn't town if you disagree? Rather than just give in. Unless you trust their confidence more.

Xiaysa

hmm i'd say luka seems rather towny, and is just acting in a way that makes them hard to read but they do seem to be actively looking for scum

Who do you suspect then?

2:11 a.m.

Actually yeah I just had a short look at luka's posts and I guess they might be town

2:11 a.m.

I need to look at Kaz at one point when I have time

Luka

Like, you're complaining about being hurt without saying anything.

I'm not "complaining" bout anything

Dragon

Well shouldn't you convince the people you town that xia isn't town if you disagree? Rather than just give in. Unless you trust their confidence more.

Wait that was supposed to be a reply to this:

Luka

I also don't think it was a very conductive way to respond to an FoS. IE: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224438560627888288

Not even going to explain this.

Luka

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Frosted (Maybe? Seems pure, but not sure on this)

A reply to this

Luka

Nyaa, I'm doing this tho- I'm actively re-evaluating on them and calling them town, so I'm a bit confused here ConfusedPika

...Not really? You actively refused to stop talking to me when I told you to

Code

...Not really? You actively refused to stop talking to me when I told you to

Maybe you should stop talking to them also?

Luka

POE + Gyp FOSd Kazuma w/o acting on it and Kazuma acted poorly upon seeing it MenheraCurious1

This is just a Kazuma moment

i'm not too sure honestly, it's a bit hard to read people imo kaz overall just seems more calm this game, but that might be because of me wanting to scold him last game, so i'd think he's prolly town, or at least trying to act more like it and i pretty much find everyone who has been active towny, so whoever is scum must be either good at acting as town, or just really quiet but would be nice if the quiet ones would try to talk here a bit more

2:16 a.m.

overall i find it so hard to read people here atm

Gypyx

besides it's plurality so i'm in no rush

You haven't bothered with any of your sr's except RVSing shigad

oh that's true

Dragon

Maybe you should stop talking to them also?

Don't get involved

uhm (Kazuma)

Ive been confident in my reads

You've given reads? (Aside from me scum)

Dragon

Well shouldn't you convince the people you town that xia isn't town if you disagree? Rather than just give in. Unless you trust their confidence more.

My second main problem with Luka is he is never this solvey and specially not on d1 so it's worth keeping in mind if we need to re evaluate

Code

You haven't bothered with any of your sr's except RVSing shigad

Do i uh... need to bother with more? Will i explode if i don't flip my vote 5 times each time i get a new scumread?

Dragon

@Caitlin @Xiaysa @Gypyx what are your thoughts on Luka, you guys?

Town

Gypyx

Do i uh... need to bother with more? Will i explode if i don't flip my vote 5 times each time i get a new scumread?

Yes

holy shit i didn't know

Gypyx

Town

Explain

thanks for warning me

Code

My second main problem with Luka is he is never this solvey and specially not on d1 so it's worth keeping in mind if we need to re evaluate

I don't use the halfway rule a lot but I would honestly lynch Luka if he's still here d3

Code

Explain

i think luke is the most obvtown slot we have (edited)

Having played with him before this is not true

2:26 a.m.

Yes he feels towny as I've said before

2:26 a.m.

But is by no means obv town

2:27 a.m.

He can very easily be faking this

2:27 a.m.

Like very easliy

I'm gonna fucking explode the next time someone uses meta to explain a read

Its just a fact

alright i don't care i'm playing this game in a vaccum now

2:27 a.m.

y'all have no meta at all in my heart

I don't want to get to f3 either playing or watching and find out luka is scum and everyone else completely ignored it

Gypyx

Town

Yeah I figured it out

Gypyx

i think luke is the most obvtown slot we have (edited)

Disagree, caitlin is the most obvtown but Luka is like mediumly town

Code

But is by no means obv town

Agreed

Gypyx

I'm gonna fucking explode the next time someone uses meta to explain a read

I have no idea what a meta even is

2:28 a.m.

@Luka are you the Luka who played with Alisae?

2:29 a.m.

@Gypyx I never played with Luka but it's easy to tell that in general their posts can be faked even though they still lean on the side of town. It's not meta.

Of course i'll reevaluate if they get to F5, as i would with everyone, but also it's not a scumread i'm willing to entertain today

Yeah that's fine I wasn't planning to push them today

2:34 a.m.

You are voting Kaz, right?

yes

2:39 a.m.

Like yeah speaking about Luka i don't see what they've done to deserve 2 votes

Gypyx

Like yeah speaking about Luka i don't see what they've done to deserve 2 votes

This is not a response to that

2:49 a.m.

But Luka and (I assume) Cait are the two people in this game most likely to deepwolf

2:50 a.m.

Unless you've played with them before (more than once) I would always recommend holding some level of skepticism on both

Xiaysa

i'm not too sure honestly, it's a bit hard to read people imo kaz overall just seems more calm this game, but that might be because of me wanting to scold him last game, so i'd think he's prolly town, or at least trying to act more like it and i pretty much find everyone who has been active towny, so whoever is scum must be either good at acting as town, or just really quiet but would be nice if the quiet ones would try to talk here a bit more

Well i did say I’d behave next game

. And as for that bit about a good actor or whatever, luka.

uhm (Kazuma)

Well i did say I’d behave next game

. And as for that bit about a good actor or whatever, luka.

yep, hence why i'd rather think of you as town atm

Code

You've given reads? (Aside from me scum)

Aside from that and towning xia, not really.

what are your reads aside from that then?

Gypyx

I'm gonna fucking explode the next time someone uses meta to explain a read

You get used it.

uhm (Kazuma)

Aside from that and towning xia, not really.

Out of curiosity how can you hold those two thoughts at the same time when I was first and hardest to town xia

Xiaysa

what are your reads aside from that then?

Im willing to tl cait for now, done the most out of us so far. I see no difference between what shigad has done this game and the last game we played so tl. Idk about the others, havent made the conscious effort to read them.

Code

Out of curiosity how can you hold those two thoughts at the same time when I was first and hardest to town xia

Towning xia really isn’t that hard though

3:15 a.m.

Unless im misunderstanding

3:15 a.m.

Your question

uhm (Kazuma)

Towning xia really isn’t that hard though

Harder meaning I did it intensively

3:17 a.m.

And it was at the time where everyone else was sussing her

Ah

3:19 a.m.

Mb, just woke up

3:20 a.m.

I never sussed her though

My point is if you town her you should logically town me

acting as if White Knighting isn't a thing

3:27 a.m.

especially since it's not like that pressure was really the most meaningful thing

Code

My point is if you town her you should logically town me

I really dont see why

3:28 a.m.

You can town her as maf no?

Gypyx

acting as if White Knighting isn't a thing

You know nothing about me, Kaz does

She is the easiest to town without it seeming like tmi

He should know me better than this

3:29 a.m.

But apparently he doesn't so

Code

He should know me better than this

That’s why I’m not voting you rn

I thought you would've learned after the last few games

Thick skull

3:29 a.m.

Me not you

Code

You know nothing about me, Kaz does

explodes

Code

I thought you would've learned after the last few games

Who do you think is paired with him?

uhm (Kazuma)

Who do you think is paired with him?

Who's him

Luka

I don't sus luka lol

3:31 a.m.

I voted him in policy and I hold high skepticim

Who do you sus then

I'll vote him later days if needed

3:32 a.m.

Well rn I'm happy to OMGUS @Gypyx since they seem to want to play that way

Code

I'll vote him later days if needed

Reads?

i'm kinda tired of having all my thoughts shut down by "you don't know me LOL"

Gypyx

i'm kinda tired of having all my thoughts shut down by "you don't know me LOL"

Then stop basing your reads on me on things that can be easily disproven that way

3:34 a.m.

5 minutes reading my past games and you wouldn't be in this position

Code

Then stop basing your reads on me on things that can be easily disproven that way

She has nothing else to base them on though

Look, fuck this

uhm (Kazuma)

Reads?

T luka, xia

uhm (Kazuma)

She has nothing else to base them on though

Like I said, 5 minutes reading my past games

i'm not moving for today

I do not care

3:35 a.m.

If you wanna be like this be like this

Code

T luka, xia

Thats all?

uhm (Kazuma)

Thats all?

What part of me saying yesterday I wanted to back seat this game makesyou think I've read every single person here and want to scream it from the roof tops

Im just asking, no need to be hostile

How tf is that hostile

3:37 a.m.

Kaz have you MET me

3:37 a.m.

I'd say you know that's not hostile but clearly you don't know me as well as I thought you sid

3:37 a.m.

did

Mb, just woke up

3:40 a.m.

And im hungry

Code

Like I said, 5 minutes reading my past games

if it takes 5 minutes you should be able to explain it in just as much right

3:50 a.m.

and look, sorry but i'm here to play this game

3:51 a.m.

i'm not here to perform a fucking background check on everyone with name date of birth and if they ever bussed scumbuddies on a friday

3:51 a.m.

so stop hiding behind meta and personality reads when it's absolutely not the grounds on which i'm accusing you

Gypyx

and look, sorry but i'm here to play this game

Meta is part of the game

3:52 a.m.

You're gonna have to get used to that if you keep playing here

3:52 a.m.

Not trying to be harsh, that's just the way things are.

3:53 a.m.

It's no good me explaining to you something you can't grasp unless you see for yourself

yeah well i'm not staying if that's how everything is lol

3:53 a.m.

Seems like it's the only way you know how to play the game

That's your choice but I'm not gonna exclude meta from everything I say/do just because you don't want to use it.

Well that's my issue, there's meta litterally everywhere in your play

3:59 a.m.

You never play this game

Because when it comes to you that is the easiest and most obvious answer

look whatever

4:00 a.m.

that's not something we're solving this game

Your entire argument on me is "code is too tryhard" and "code is whiteknight" and whatever, but ALL of this can be disproven if you look at my other games for just two seconds

4:00 a.m.

Meta is perfectly valid and it is expecially so when it is the strongest defense against your points

4:01 a.m.

As for not playing this game, not sure how you get that when I've been commenting on things like shigad's entry and luka/kaz's susses on me/xia

4:01 a.m.

I'm not going to change the way I play for you

Reading comprehension has left the chat

Gypyx

Reading comprehension has left the chat

No idea what you're even trying to say here but great argument ig /s

i'm saying you can't understeand people's points so you're taking refuge in referring to your past games

How can I not understand peoples points

4:06 a.m.

You called me tryhard when all I did, LITERALLY all I did was vibe

4:06 a.m.

When if you'd been in ANY of those games, you'd be aware that for me, what I've done this game is actually incredibly laid back

4:07 a.m.

Then you'd likely sus it on the fact that is was laid back INSTEAD of tryhard and I'd find that more acceptable as an argument

4:07 a.m.

The only serious thing I had done to that point was call out Shigad

my point was that your post were excessively efforty for no good reason (Try-hard)

4:09 a.m.

now yeah i wasn't aware of your personal playstyle so i viewed it as trying to be efforty instead of trying to be laid back

4:09 a.m.

point still stands

I have returned with energy

4:13 a.m.

@Code thoughts on silver?

4:16 a.m.

Im gonna

4:16 a.m.

Town hun

4:16 a.m.

Hun

4:16 a.m.

Him

4:16 a.m.

And nocturnal

4:16 a.m.

Nocturnal

4:16 a.m.

4:17 a.m.

Nocti

Gypyx

my point was that your post were excessively efforty for no good reason (Try-hard)

Except they weren't

4:17 a.m.

So your point physically cannot stand

uhm (Kazuma)

Nocti

So town is me,you,xia nocti,shigad and silver

uhm (Kazuma)

@Code thoughts on silver?

Haven't read

uhm (Kazuma)

So town is me,you,xia nocti,shigad and silver

Why am I suddenly town

Because luka is fun

4:18 a.m.

Scum

4:18 a.m.

I cant see my keyboard smh

I mean I'm down to lynch him but you won't have the votes

4:18 a.m.

Why is shigad town

He doesn’t get lynched day one in any case yeah

Code

Why is shigad town

You think there’s a difference between this game and the last?

4:19 a.m.

With him

uhm (Kazuma)

You think there’s a difference between this game and the last?

I'll answer your question after you answer mine

Feels really similar

I do feel like his entry was more forced and higher effort than his entry was last game

4:20 a.m.

Last game he just kinda vibed whereas he came straight in here demanding people's alignment opinions and so on

Code

I do feel like his entry was more forced and higher effort than his entry was last game

He subbed in mid game in fairness

Bearing in mind I have the best reads on people's entry compared to any other game

uhm (Kazuma)

He subbed in mid game in fairness

Yeah but still

4:21 a.m.

Most times when I catch a mafia I catch them on their entry

4:21 a.m.

Yager, Nubs, whoever it was the game before Nubs

Code

Bearing in mind I have the best reads on people's entry compared to any other game

Fine. Ill reconsider him

You don't have to agree with my read just iso the first 10-20 messages of both

Ill do that later

uhm (Kazuma)

So town is me,you,xia nocti,shigad and silver

Cait too, forgot

You're making the same mistake I made last game

4:26 a.m.

Towning everyone immediately

So two in gypx, frosted and luka. (Possibly shigad too but ehh)

Code

You're making the same mistake I made last game

I need to make mistakes to learn.

Code

Towning everyone immediately

And you were fairly right

Except the part where I towned M2H

Thats it though

4:28 a.m.

You were right about nubs and It all worked out in the end too

Dragon

@Caitlin @Xiaysa @Gypyx what are your thoughts on Luka, you guys?

Why are you signling me out here?

Code

I'm not "complaining" bout anything

Your entire game has been complaining.

Dragon

Actually yeah I just had a short look at luka's posts and I guess they might be town

Why did you not look at my posts before you pinged people.

Code

Not even going to explain this.

Then don't ping me next time.

Dragon

A reply to this

No, not confident enough in myself tbh.

Code

...Not really? You actively refused to stop talking to me when I told you to

Yeah, it's a game. I'm allowed to communicate to you, ignore me if you don't like it.

Code

This is just a Kazuma moment

What's your read on Kazuma?

Code

My second main problem with Luka is he is never this solvey and specially not on d1 so it's worth keeping in mind if we need to re evaluate

You've played w/ me twice before, both of those games I was meming.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yee.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Cait power wolfs, I deep wolf.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

</3

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Code

Your entire argument on me is "code is too tryhard" and "code is whiteknight" and whatever, but ALL of this can be disproven if you look at my other games for just two seconds

She has never said this.

8:59 a.m.

She's complaining about you using to much meta.

uhm (Kazuma)

So town is me,you,xia nocti,shigad and silver

Horrible but w/e

9:01 a.m.

I gained nothing on backreading, Code is still hella scummy but I despise the fact that they're using AtE so I'm just going to kill them if they get to LYLO.

Luka

Your entire game has been complaining.

Literally untrue but go off I guess

Luka

I gained nothing on backreading, Code is still hella scummy but I despise the fact that they're using AtE so I'm just going to kill them if they get to LYLO.

If you make it to lylo I'll be shocked

Luka

Then don't ping me next time.

Not gonna listen to you since it's JuSt a GaMe

Code

If you make it to lylo I'll be shocked

I wouldn't, I haven't played DM in a while + I'm green on the PL.

Luka

You've played w/ me twice before, both of those games I was meming.

Pretty sure it's more than twice but idk the exact number

Code

Pretty sure it's more than twice but idk the exact number

It's twice, both NE games.

9:06 a.m.

Haven't played w/ you outside of it.

Luka

She has never said this.

You clearly haven't read the start of the day where she explicitly said i tryhard too much

In the context of that situation was what I was refering to, your accusation was partially out of the blue.

It wasn't whatsoever

9:08 a.m.

But whatever

9:08 a.m.

As for kazuma he's normal

9:08 a.m.

Annoying but normal kazuma play

Is said play wolfy or towny?

Well given that he's been wolf exactly 1 time "normal" means "town"

I believe he's been wolf twice IIRC but got it.

9:09 a.m.

Town:
- Code
- Silver
- Luka
- Cait
- Gyp

Light Town:
- Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.

Barely any difference

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait
Gyp Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Frosted (Maybe? Seems pure, but not sure on this)

Why does everyone this game suddenly think its such an amazing idea to town half or more of the lobby

Code

Barely any difference

I flounded my first game and was universal town my second so I disagree but w/e

Luka

I flounded my first game and was universal town my second so I disagree but w/e

Whatever

Code

Why does everyone this game suddenly think its such an amazing idea to town half or more of the lobby

Half or more of this lobby is towny

Wasn't my question

I answered said question MenheraSleep3

Clearly you didn't because that wasn't my question

Okay let's murder uhm.

Code

Clearly you didn't because that wasn't my question

Reread your post MenheraCurious1

I know what my own post says buddy

Why does everyone this game suddenly think its such an amazing idea to town half or more of the lobby

It is an amazing idea to town half or more of this lobby since half or more of this lobby is towny

9:16 a.m.

Put it in a full sentence for you!

Towny and town

9:16 a.m.

Are not the same thing

9:17 a.m.

Shigad is pretty obviously the target but since we've still got time to kill let's dance around that fact for the next... 29 hours?

Im down

Code

Are not the same thing

It still answers the question, meaning I win! AcerolaYay

Imagine thinking shit's a contest

9:20 a.m.

(Or that it answers the question no one asked)

Sorry, couldn't hear you over winning UwU

This convo isn't worth my time, I'm out

Zzzzzzz

9:26 a.m.

I'll try to play later today or something

If Code w/ probably with Xia.

9:41 a.m.

IMHO just kill Kazuma today MenheraNya5

Luka

I gained nothing on backreading, Code is still hella scummy but I despise the fact that they're using AtE so I'm just going to kill them if they get to LYLO.

Whats AtE

uhm (Kazuma)

Whats AtE

Appeal to emotion.

Ty

@uhm (Kazuma) vote shigad with me

Okie

Ty friend

These wagons always contain a wolf I think

there's not really any wagons rn

10:15 a.m.

there's 2 on shig and 2 on kaz

bigscaryblackman69: 3 - dragon_writer , gypyx , dangerous_luka ^ Probably a wolf in there.

Code

there's not really any wagons rn

Every vote is technically a wagon, my point is in no world is this t/t/t/t wagons I think.

well I said from the start shig is mafia

Sure, they aren't towny. I don't object to a yeet

kk

Code

Why does everyone this game suddenly think its such an amazing idea to town half or more of the lobby

Cause there’s always room for reeval?

TheSilverScepter

Cause there’s always room for reeval?

yeah but every other game i've been in this has been a bad thing

There will always be people who can’t remain town or can’t keep up the appearance of solving as the game goes on

10:38 a.m.

Overtowning can be a bad thing, sure

10:39 a.m.

But it’s not necessarily a bad thing to town read about 5-6 people on D1 because well, there’s only two wolves

10:40 a.m.

Probably more of a playstyle thing than anything really

k

TheSilverScepter

Cause there’s always room for reeval?

^ Really, towns are just a pile of people you don't want to kill.

I’ll read through Shig later, I’m seeing that name thrown around a lot and yet I don’t remember any of their messages lmao

Which, you can always change.

Luka

^ Really, towns are just a pile of people you don't want to kill.

o

10:41 a.m.

k

10:45 a.m.

10:45 a.m.

I'm in a really UwU mood

10:45 a.m.

I die tonight though...

10:45 a.m.

Hi im finally online

you're ALWAYS in an uwu mood

10:45 a.m.

like you're never NOT except for when you're fighting with me

Code

you're ALWAYS in an uwu mood

Ooo tyyy

NoctiChill

Hi im finally online

Hi finally online, I'm Luka!

Hi Luka

Code

like you're never NOT except for when you're fighting with me

NoctiChill

Hi im finally online

hi nocti i'm the only sane one here

I'm here tho MenheraCurious1

exactly

Code

hi nocti i'm the only sane one here

Hi the only sane one here, I'm Luka!

Code

exactly

You love me, don't lie oopshehe

i did before this game

10:46 a.m.

well

10:46 a.m.

sort of at least

Code

i did before this game

10:46 a.m.

I have mastered the art of socilization!

what

10:47 a.m.

is that

10:47 a.m.

mii 2006 looking ass

Helloo

Code

mii 2006 looking ass

Wtf she's cute!

Xiaysa

Helloo

Hai wolf, hru?

that is literally anime mii swordfighter

Xiaysa

Helloo

Hi Xia

Code

that is literally anime mii swordfighter

Luka

Hai wolf, hru?

am good, hbu other wolf? smirk

Xiaysa

am good, hbu other wolf? smirk

Omg good, take this to scum chat, I have a cunning plan that wins us the game... sadcat

Luka

Omg good, take this to scum chat, I have a cunning plan that wins us the game... sadcat

oh sorry, where is that chat? i can't find it 1_Transbunnie10_look

Xiaysa

oh sorry, where is that chat? i can't find it 1_Transbunnie10_look

We have our scum chats on MU forums SeleneLul

At least, that's where Sunnny hosts them

10:49 a.m.

Some hosts use discord, sunny uses the above ^^

sadly i've never been on MU forums, so i guess i don't have it then

10:49 a.m.

glad you're good tho

10:50 a.m.

aight, time to read up a bit

Same

Xiaysa

aight, time to read up a bit

Thoughts?

hmmm

12:55 p.m.

out of the ones that currently seemed to be voted (you and shig), i'd rather vote shig but that might also sort of be due to bias that i do hope you really are town and all i know about shig is from last game when he subbed in, and so far this game so i can't tell too much for him even if he seems towny

Xiaysa

out of the ones that currently seemed to be voted (you and shig), i'd rather vote shig but that might also sort of be due to bias that i do hope you really are town and all i know about shig is from last game when he subbed in, and so far this game so i can't tell too much for him even if he seems towny

I'd rather Shig goes here than Kaz does

yeah same

I have no thoughts, head empty

Luka

I have no thoughts, head empty

Great so you won't mind sheeping me

Code

Great so you won't mind sheeping me

Sorry, I'm only sheeping @Xiaysa Salute

then do it kannasmug

Well Xia is voting shig

I shouldn’t be in that conversation really

So it's effectively the same principle

uhm (Kazuma)

I shouldn’t be in that conversation really

?

Code

I'd rather Shig goes here than Kaz does

Meant to reply here

Xiaysa

then do it kannasmug

No!

uhm (Kazuma)

Meant to reply here

Well rn me and xia are the only ones keeping you alive

1:10 p.m.

I'd be happy rather than upset if I were you

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait
Gyp Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Frosted (Maybe? Seems pure, but not sure on this) POE:
Everybody Else Note:

If Code / Xia scum turbo the other.

in that case you also should be fine with voting shig out today tho

1:12 p.m.

so why do you want kaz out now? Sip

Luka

Town:

Code
Silver
Luka
Cait
Gyp Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Frosted (Maybe? Seems pure, but not sure on this) POE:
Everybody Else Note:

If Code / Xia scum turbo the other.

Would love some explanation on frosted because that feels like weak sauce

Xiaysa

in that case you also should be fine with voting shig out today tho

Am I putting any resistance towards it?

I also really don't want to town gyp

Code

Would love some explanation on frosted because that feels like weak sauce

Just seems pure. Reaching for reads in a slot w/ no content.

Code

I also really don't want to town gyp

Their frustration w/ the gamestate was genuine 100%.

1:13 p.m.

The problem is, that can often project itself even as scum. But, shrugg

Yeah but that doesn't mean AI

Either way don't want them dead.

I was frustrated with you but it doesn't mean I'm one way or the other

1:14 p.m.

I would have equally the same reaction either way because the emotion was real

Luka

Am I putting any resistance towards it?

no, just curious about why you're sticking to voting kaz hehe

1:14 p.m.

but icic

Imma do that Shig ISO now

Code

I would have equally the same reaction either way because the emotion was real

I think that you're really wolfy, the only reason I'm not pushing you is because I don't want you to complain, making the game unplayable Giggle

Nevermind

1:16 p.m.

ISOing on mobile is a pain

TheSilverScepter

ISOing on mobile is a pain

TheSilverScepter

ISOing on mobile is a pain

Can’t you use the search option in discord and filter it down to their posts in a specific channel? I don’t think it’s too tedious

I tried

1:18 p.m.

But like

1:18 p.m.

I hate the new UI lol

yeahh the UI on phone sucks

OHHH

I'm in UwU mode UwU

Fuck the new ui

@NoctiChill Reads?

it's usable, but annoying to use

Oh my god I figured it out

1:18 p.m.

Also how does Shig have 86 messages but I remember near none of them

I have a feeling I'm playing really badly right now but whatever. I'll die tonight anyways, granted, I'll take somebody w/ me yayNezuko

Dragon

Why is xia wolfy?

I feel like these are typical questions wolves often give when they don’t understand a scum read, idk it’s something with the wording that feels like a wolf kinda

Dragon

Also why do you think xia and code are scummy?

Why the emphasis on “you”? Do you think that Cait should not be thinking they’re scummy?

Luka

I think that you're really wolfy, the only reason I'm not pushing you is because I don't want you to complain, making the game unplayable Giggle

If I make the game so unplayable for you, leave. The only complaints I've made this game have been about your behaviour

1:22 p.m.

You think I make the game unfun for you but you make it equally so for me

1:22 p.m.

Made*

TheSilverScepter

I feel like these are typical questions wolves often give when they don’t understand a scum read, idk it’s something with the wording that feels like a wolf kinda

To elaborate, I feel like towns often go more for like a question of “What exactly makes Xia wolfy?” or “What reasons do you have?”

1:22 p.m.

Might just be a semantics thing from me tho

1:23 p.m.

But it’s also just something that can be coming off as TMI

1:23 p.m.

Maybe off of that, Xia/Shig not w/w because the question seems like a wolf not understanding a wolf read on town

Code

If I make the game so unplayable for you, leave. The only complaints I've made this game have been about your behaviour

You still haven't said how I've made it unfun, so I can't really address that MenheraNervousEhehe

Either way, don't really wanna have a repeat of this, sorry oopshehe

TheSilverScepter

Might just be a semantics thing from me tho

It probably is, I think that's strictly NAI no matter what. Even if it's correct.

Fair lmao

This angle from Silver is really weird, given it's just going over well, semantics, but I think that they're town for making it? It's just. Really silly to make as wolf yk- uwu

Luka

You still haven't said how I've made it unfun, so I can't really address that MenheraNervousEhehe

Either way, don't really wanna have a repeat of this, sorry oopshehe

I told you to ask me after the game. There's no point me telling you here when all you're going to do is a) defend yourself, b) invalidate my arguments and c) call it all AtE when it isn't.

It’s just something I come more from wolves to fake engagement

1:24 p.m.

In a way

I won't explain a serious matter in a nonserious setting

But also trying to be conscious of TMI

Code

I told you to ask me after the game. There's no point me telling you here when all you're going to do is a) defend yourself, b) invalidate my arguments and c) call it all AtE when it isn't.

Doing a and b is apart of mafia, and c | if you're a town it isn't AtE, it's genuine emotion. If you're a wolf it's strictly AtE, given from your starting post you were weaponizing emotions. If you're a town, none of this should effect you, so don't worry Nadeshiko_yay

Luka

Doing a and b is apart of mafia, and c | if you're a town it isn't AtE, it's genuine emotion. If you're a wolf it's strictly AtE, given from your starting post you were weaponizing emotions. If you're a town, none of this should effect you, so don't worry Nadeshiko_yay

That's my point, a and b is a part of mafia but my explanation is not and should not be responded to as such.

TheSilverScepter

But also trying to be conscious of TMI

I think asking for random reads as opposed to the entire readlist is >rand wolf sure, but meh. I don't really care enough.

Code

That's my point, a and b is a part of mafia but my explanation is not and should not be responded to as such.

Got it, I won't treat it as apart of mafia if you give it. I'll isolate it from my brain, so can you give the explanation?

Eh, might just be a difference in how we read the game

Not in public, DM me

TheSilverScepter

Eh, might just be a difference in how we read the game

That's fair enough.

That’s

Code

Not in public, DM me

I'll talk post game in which case.

Isn’t that borderline OGI

1:26 p.m.

Yea

Luka

I'll talk post game in which case.

Ok

TheSilverScepter

Isn’t that borderline OGI

Yup, hence why I'm not going to do it Nadeshiko_yay

\

If going to be done through DMs, should be post game

(omg... remove the ...)

1:26 p.m.

wait- aaaaa

1:26 p.m.

I dun like discord..

TheSilverScepter

If going to be done through DMs, should be post game

Only reason I said to do it now is because he kept asking

Me when I top post and I'm still clueless...

I don’t even have half the posts you do

Jkjk, I think that it's either Code / Xia or my read list is just correct. Either way I think that Silver / Cait should be v/v. If I'm wrong on anything else outside of Code / Xia it's the uhm. Person I added for frustration

What the fuck

TheSilverScepter

I don’t even have half the posts you do

I don't top post in games you're in since 1. Forums are so much harder for me to use and 2. I don't have much free time ATM I'm only in 2 games, which basically means I'm in 1/5th as much games as I normally am Hapi

aa hello,, sorry i realised I didn’t meet quota! i didn’t realise, sorry ^^;

frosted ✧

aa hello,, sorry i realised I didn’t meet quota! i didn’t realise, sorry ^^;

Ur fine..

Luka

I don't top post in games you're in since 1. Forums are so much harder for me to use and 2. I don't have much free time ATM I'm only in 2 games, which basically means I'm in 1/5th as much games as I normally am Hapi

No that’s fair but also like

1:28 p.m.

God damn lmao

has anyone got any idea for who mafia is?

TheSilverScepter

No that’s fair but also like

There was that scum game where I had 2000+ posts by the 24h mark...

TheSilverScepter

I feel like these are typical questions wolves often give when they don’t understand a scum read, idk it’s something with the wording that feels like a wolf kinda

Was this the one to which I responded if Shig is mafia so is Xia? That was the vibe I got

frosted ✧

has anyone got any idea for who mafia is?

Not u!

frosted ✧

has anyone got any idea for who mafia is?

Hihi frosted

Luka

There was that scum game where I had 2000+ posts by the 24h mark...

Luka what the fuck

NoctiChill

Hihi frosted

hello hello!

TheSilverScepter

Luka what the fuck

Code

Was this the one to which I responded if Shig is mafia so is Xia? That was the vibe I got

It might be?

1:29 p.m.

Lemme check

Luka

Not u!

thank you hahah

honestly I’m still very clueless, I’m trying to read but I’m not getting anywhere

Omg I'll defend u with my life

1:29 p.m.

Ur so pure

Luka

This angle from Silver is really weird, given it's just going over well, semantics, but I think that they're town for making it? It's just. Really silly to make as wolf yk- uwu

Could be niche and forced idk

Silver doesn't feel forced to me tho

Luka

Omg I'll defend u with my life

aww what

thank you

frosted ✧

thank you hahah

honestly I’m still very clueless, I’m trying to read but I’m not getting anywhere

That’s alr I’m still getting nowhere

I looked for it by scrolling after the initial question was asked

1:30 p.m.

But I don’t see your comment

1:31 p.m.

I’ll do a proper dive later tho

frosted ✧

thank you hahah

honestly I’m still very clueless, I’m trying to read but I’m not getting anywhere

That’s fine!

TheSilverScepter

But I don’t see your comment

I definitely said it at some point, may have been to xia tho

It’s hard to get a hang of reading into things

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Cait Town Read:
Gyp
Silver Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Code
Kazuma POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad Note:

If my POE is wrong, go into Code next probably sadcat

Code

I definitely said it at some point, may have been to xia tho

Mhm, it’s why I’m planning on ISO’ing you later to find it

thank you

i’m doing my best but I’ll keep an eye on chat to see if I spot anything !!

I got the vibe quite early that Xia Shig might be w w but I don't really sus xia outside of the defense

Cause we’re reaching different conclusions off of the same question we saw

1:32 p.m.

I thought it looked more like a wolf shielding a town honestly

Code

I got the vibe quite early that Xia Shig might be w w but I don't really sus xia outside of the defense

Xia dies tn if Shig is town fr...

Also here is your half daily reminder that Luka is perfectly capable of deep wolfing and could easily be playing us all here

Oh hea

1:32 p.m.

Yea

Have I softed vig enough yet sadcat

Luka snowed me in my first game on MU

1:32 p.m.

Well

Yes I claimed you vig yesterday

Idk if I can count it snowing

1:32 p.m.

Because your other two partners were obviously wolf

TheSilverScepter

Because your other two partners were obviously wolf

Bysta living till LYLO and then endgaming was a crime tbh..

1:33 p.m.

Stick is a fucking amazing wolf tho

But a hard headed town existed so the game was lost

1:33 p.m.

Imagine having a 0/3 solve for three days straight lmao

1:33 p.m.

Anyways

1:33 p.m.

This game

TheSilverScepter

But a hard headed town existed so the game was lost

EC momento

Yes

frosted ✧

thank you

i’m doing my best but I’ll keep an eye on chat to see if I spot anything !!

I will not defend you with my life but I will at least give you today as a grace period purely for the fact you're new.

TheSilverScepter

Imagine having a 0/3 solve for three days straight lmao

"Your vote historys are all terrible" - EC

has a full green vote history

TheSilverScepter

Idk if I can count it snowing

My point is if I get lynched and Luka is still alive, kill Luka

Code

I will not defend you with my life but I will at least give you today as a grace period purely for the fact you're new.

thank you hahaahah

Code

My point is if I get lynched and Luka is still alive, kill Luka

Ah, thanks for clarifying

1:34 p.m.

Frosted, I know it’s a bit difficult to get into the game but

1:34 p.m.

Is there anything that’s stood out to you?

hmmm

Take ur time

Code

My point is if I get lynched and Luka is still alive, kill Luka

At the moment nothing that has stood out severely but I’m planning to go back through chat and try and spot anything strange

1:35 p.m.

i haven’t read enough messages to have a clear idea ^^;;

It doesn’t have to be things that are wolfy either!

1:36 p.m.

It can be things that you think are towny/good

1:36 p.m.

Sometimes our focus is too often on finding scum, so we end up wanting to comment on that the most

1:36 p.m.

It’s just as helpful to talk about things that you think are towny, so don’t be afraid to share anything

I should probably think about that too but my brain is not working

that’s really helpful tysm!! well it is evident that luka is providing a lot to the table!! i don’t think mafia team would commit so much time to analysing everything

Omg nobody tell them...

TheSilverScepter

It’s just as helpful to talk about things that you think are towny, so don’t be afraid to share anything

but yesyes that’s a really good point to make and I will keep that in mind

Luka

Omg nobody tell them...

oh??

Nobody tell them I actually post more as mafia...

1:39 p.m.

Frosted is so pure...

1:39 p.m.

Id die for frosted tbh...

1:39 p.m.

This was a wolf game from me.

1:40 p.m.

Keep in mind that's about 5000 posts if you translate it to discord...

frosted ✧

that’s really helpful tysm!! well it is evident that luka is providing a lot to the table!! i don’t think mafia team would commit so much time to analysing everything

you'd be surprised, but this is a start

frosted ✧

that’s really helpful tysm!! well it is evident that luka is providing a lot to the table!! i don’t think mafia team would commit so much time to analysing everything

Mhm! Easiest way to contribute and help people find you as town is by just speaking your mind

frosted ✧

At the moment nothing that has stood out severely but I’m planning to go back through chat and try and spot anything strange

that's alright, as long as you at least try, that alone is good enough AG_Yesyes

don't stress too much about whether it's a dumb/smart read, because you never know, maybe some of them turn out to be right even if others think it's dumb!

Nyaa...

1:43 p.m.

Meow....

1:43 p.m.

Purr....

just don't be scared to share your mind Salute

Be scared the mafia wil kill u... Lie about everything...

1:43 p.m.

There goes Luka being a cat boy

TheSilverScepter

There goes Luka being a cat boy

Nya...

oh no, a cat boy too bad i don't have a collar anywhere

1:44 p.m.

i'm a crazy cat lady, i have to collect all cats i find

TheSilverScepter

There goes Luka being a cat boy

i'm the better one

1:44 p.m.

Okay, I'm going to go now... See u later...

Xiaysa

that's alright, as long as you at least try, that alone is good enough AG_Yesyes

don't stress too much about whether it's a dumb/smart read, because you never know, maybe some of them turn out to be right even if others think it's dumb!

thank you sm

I’ll try and contribute more to the team hahaah

but i'm afraid gyp already stole this cat's heart

1:44 p.m.

so i'll have to let it go this time

frosted ✧

thank you sm

I’ll try and contribute more to the team hahaah

npnp! i'm sure you'll do fine AG_Yesyes

trying is better than doing nothing at all

1:45 p.m.

and you'll learn from the mistakes you make

1:45 p.m.

1:46 p.m.

we all started somewhere after all!

thank you so much!!!

and on this note, i'll say frosted is town 100%

1:47 p.m.

i doubt she'd have a partner as of now

1:48 p.m.

so you're safe frosted dw AG_Yesyes

Xiaysa

but i'm afraid gyp already stole this cat's heart

No shade to Gyp but why does everyone love her

1:48 p.m.

Is is a genuine question

1:49 p.m.

This*

that's a good question

I think frosted town is prooooobably a safe bet but it'd put it as a lean rather than a read

yeah that's fair

I’d agree with frosted town lean Besides that my brain still isn’t working and I have basically no other reads

Luka

Why are you signling me out here?

Because I wanted to know their thoughts on you specifically. You are a very loud player and if you are scum it's good to catch you early. If you are town it's good to know you are town early also, so we could work together.

Luka

Why did you not look at my posts before you pinged people.

Because I am lazy

Luka

No, not confident enough in myself tbh.

Okay sure

Luka

Yee.

Oh okay then you're supposed to be pretty good at this game

2:06 p.m.

@Gypyx you're now able to "meta read" luka by reading the large theme firebringer ran a fee months ago

NoctiChill

I’d agree with frosted town lean Besides that my brain still isn’t working and I have basically no other reads

It's easy for her to ask those questions in wolf chat. The only mitigating factor is if her partner said do it here as strategy

TheSilverScepter

Why the emphasis on “you”? Do you think that Cait should not be thinking they’re scummy?

My previous post was asking someone else why they thought xia was scummy. Then I asked why cait, not the other person, thought xia was scummy. I wanted to get both perspectives.

Dragon

@Gypyx you're now able to "meta read" luka by reading the large theme firebringer ran a fee months ago

don't test me dragon i will revote you if you ask me to do that

Gypyx

don't test me dragon i will revote you if you ask me to do that

Do it

2:08 p.m.

He's scum anyway

I’m going to put my votes today in Shig/Kaz

Dragon

Because I wanted to know their thoughts on you specifically. You are a very loud player and if you are scum it's good to catch you early. If you are town it's good to know you are town early also, so we could work together.

If I'm scum you're going to catch me near LYLO, not today Hehe

Gypyx

don't test me dragon i will revote you if you ask me to do that

It was a jokeee

This PL seems kinda~~ weak in terms of discord mafia, with the only player I think that might catch me is Cait.

I have decent enough town leans on other people and some of their stuff is strange in I guess tone

Also

2:09 p.m.

Feel free to revote me

And even then, that's iffy. Silver over forums can catch me, but I don't think that they would.

2:10 p.m.

over here*

Tone doesnt feel natural

Dragon

Because I am lazy

Code

He's scum anyway

Like I was scum last game, right?

Luka

Just seems pure. Reaching for reads in a slot w/ no content.

Frosted has done nothing worth towning

Luka

And even then, that's iffy. Silver over forums can catch me, but I don't think that they would.

Sounds like a challenge :)

Luka

Sorry man

Dragon

Sorry man

I'm lazier dwdw

TheSilverScepter

Sounds like a challenge :)

I'm town, sorry UwU

Dragon

Like I was scum last game, right?

Yeah except this time it's true

uhm (Kazuma)

Frosted has done nothing worth towning

Tone and general lost feeling feels like pure new town

2:10 p.m.

Is there a reason why that should be doubted right now?

Luka

If I'm scum you're going to catch me near LYLO, not today Hehe

How come?

Luka

I'm lazier dwdw

Okay high five of laziness

Dragon

How come?

I'm a rly good wolf over discord mafia to the point where I don't think that much people here could catch me.

Dragon

Okay high five of laziness

I could catch you

2:11 p.m.

Its a question of would I get votes

Dragon

Oh okay then you're supposed to be pretty good at this game

False.. I'm a 6/10 town~~, maybe near 7/10, and a 9/10 mafia fr... sadcat

Code

I could catch you

2:12 p.m.

If u think so!

Luka

Noooo I can't find a high five sticker

2:12 p.m.

Sorry

Dragon

Noooo I can't find a high five sticker

Here's a fistbump:

2:13 p.m.

:HighFiveRam:

2:13 p.m.

Yeah I don't have nitro unfortunately

Dragon

Here's a fistbump:

Nitro is overrated anyway

Well it's good for high fives apparently

Luka

Xia dies tn if Shig is town fr...

No

Tbh I'd probably consider Gyp slightly ahead of Xia

2:14 p.m.

Not by much though

@Xiaysa explain the vote on me pls, didn't you call me town earlier? I haven't even posted since

I give up on reading

uhm (Kazuma)

No

Yes....

2:15 p.m.

fr....

Dragon

@Xiaysa explain the vote on me pls, didn't you call me town earlier? I haven't even posted since

~~It's cause they're wolf~~

Oh

2:15 p.m.

Let's vote her then

Dragon

Let's vote her then

DW I'll deal with her tn dwdw

Luka isn't actually mason btw

Code

Luka isn't actually mason btw

Ur right I'm not mason... sadcat

Code

Luka isn't actually mason btw

Woah no way

He's wolf

TheSilverScepter

Is there a reason why that should be doubted right now?

Not right now, just saying towning him this early when barely anything has been said by her isnt a good idea

I'm mason with luka tho

Oh shit did I say mason

2:16 p.m.

I meant vig

Code

He's wolf

Omg I believe in u! U can push me!

2:16 p.m.

U can do it!

Dragon

I'm mason with luka tho

Omg true.. YancyBlush

Code

I meant vig

Lol

Luka

Omg I believe in u! U can push me!

Should be obvious that was a joke

Dragon

@Xiaysa explain the vote on me pls, didn't you call me town earlier? I haven't even posted since

they were voting for you or kaz, and personally i'd rather vote you out than kaz, because i'd like to believe him (which i explained earlier as well)

But I can and will later in the game if needed

Xiaysa

they were voting for you or kaz, and personally i'd rather vote you out than kaz, because i'd like to believe him (which i explained earlier as well)

Vote someone else then?

Code

Should be obvious that was a joke

I believe in u!

2:17 p.m.

U can kill me!

2:17 p.m.

I won't deep wolf!

Like, IDK, Gypyx?

2:17 p.m.

Or

Luka

I believe in u!

Pls stop being sarcastic

I dunno

Code

Pls stop being sarcastic

uhm (Kazuma)

Not right now, just saying towning him this early when barely anything has been said by her isnt a good idea

Well like I said earlier

2:17 p.m.

There’s always room for reeval

Silver?

@Dragon o wait do you know Alisae?

Luka

@Dragon o wait do you know Alisae?

Yes they hate me tho

For now, I’ll trust my tonal reads because being from a chat mafia has taught me to read into tone a lot

Dragon

Silver?

Hi?

Silver

Dragon

Vote someone else then?

Why are you so pressed?

Hi??

TheSilverScepter

Hi?

I was giving you as a vote option

TheSilverScepter

There’s always room for reeval

Fair

Oh cool

2:18 p.m.

Why

Dragon

Yes they hate me tho

I like them Meow

U seem p nice

uhm (Kazuma)

Why are you so pressed?

I'm at E-1 for no good reason?

TheSilverScepter

For now, I’ll trust my tonal reads because being from a chat mafia has taught me to read into tone a lot

Omg I love tone..

Luka

I like them Meow

U seem p nice

Oh thank you

There’s no maj

Dragon

I'm at E-1 for no good reason?

Maj never enabled d1 relax

It’s D1

Dragon

I'm at E-1 for no good reason?

Is maj on d1 Meow

I don't dislike them

Idk what E-1 is

You’re fine lmao

uhm (Kazuma)

Idk what E-1 is

Execution-1

Wish it was tho

Mafiascum stopped using Lynch, so they do E-X Meow

Code

Maj never enabled d1 relax

Good point

2:19 p.m.

I'm relax now

Cool

2:19 p.m.

Now expand on why you named me as a vote option

You know what

2:20 p.m.

I genuinely like silver

Because I don't even remember a single thing you wrote

Good job

@Dragon FTR, if you flip town Xia 100% dies tonight. So, your sacrfiice is basically a gain Meow

Dragon

Because I don't even remember a single thing you wrote

Read again, idk

I will

Dragon

Because I don't even remember a single thing you wrote

Nocti Frosted Gyp (other than complaining about me)

If that’s your only basis then meh lmao

All people who have written precisely 0 relevant things

Dragon

Vote someone else then?

yeah, i could but ngl, i'm having a hard time knowing who's sus but i do want to trust code, silver and luka (yes, even if they find me sus and thats fine)

Code

Nocti Frosted Gyp (other than complaining about me)

Yeah tbh I forgot those even existed

2:21 p.m.

Can we vote Nocti?

Seems like you’re throwing out names to save skin, which I guess can be done as town but I don’t exactly like the way you’re doing it

Not today sorry

Until I’m given a solid, substantial reason why, I’m not voting outside of my vote pool

Hello im back

That or if I see something egregious

I'm fine w/ Shi Nocti Kazuma and the other one Meow

hello nocti

NoctiChill

Hello im back

Speak for the devil

Dragon

Can we vote Nocti?

Why are you so uncomfortable as top wagon

Speak of*

I like Kaz again now

TheSilverScepter

Speak for the devil

Uhh what is happening

TheSilverScepter

Seems like you’re throwing out names to save skin, which I guess can be done as town but I don’t exactly like the way you’re doing it

I meani know am town and I don't see a reason I'm being voted. Each of you has a better chance to be mafia (even if it's only 2%) than me who has 0% to be mafia fmpov

NoctiChill

Uhh what is happening

Shig suggested you as a vote option

Being towned by the frosted is a dream come tru...

uhm (Kazuma)

Why are you so uncomfortable as top wagon

Why would I be comfortbale as the top wagon???

Then you showed yo lmao

Dragon

I meani know am town and I don't see a reason I'm being voted. Each of you has a better chance to be mafia (even if it's only 2%) than me who has 0% to be mafia fmpov

Not sure where you get 2% from

Showed up*

Lag~~

Code

I like Kaz again now

You stopped liking me?

TheSilverScepter

Shig suggested you as a vote option

I’d like to hear his reasoning

Code

Not sure where you get 2% from

Just random number

Dragon

Why would I be comfortbale as the top wagon???

If you’re town, then there really shouldn’t be anything to fear

uhm (Kazuma)

You stopped liking me?

Nah I just got annoyed for a while but you were always my #1, dw

TheSilverScepter

If you’re town, then there really shouldn’t be anything to fear

I disagree

❤️

Meh

2:23 p.m.

You have no burden as town

Code, one of the loudest players, is tunneling me for no reason

Shig you are not responding well to pressure compared to last game

2:23 p.m.

And I gave my reasons

Code

Shig you are not responding well to pressure compared to last game

I wasn't even pressured last game

Imma just

Code

And I gave my reasons

I didn't see them

Go back to doing my work real quick lmao

I pressured you last game or did you forget that in the 5 minutes since you mentioned it

Dragon

Code, one of the loudest players, is tunneling me for no reason

What does tunneling mean? I’m not very knowledgeable when it comes to mafia terms

NoctiChill

I’d like to hear his reasoning

Also this @Dragon

NoctiChill

What does tunneling mean? I’m not very knowledgeable when it comes to mafia terms

Solely focusing on one player

NoctiChill

What does tunneling mean? I’m not very knowledgeable when it comes to mafia terms

It means I want to vote him and only him

Like looking through a tunnel

Code

I pressured you last game or did you forget that in the 5 minutes since you mentioned it

1 person is not the same as 4

TheSilverScepter

Solely focusing on one player

I see

Dragon

1 person is not the same as 4

Pressure is pressure

Welp

2:25 p.m.

I am sorry but unfortunately I do not have the sake mindset in different games so I will react differently. Anyway please restate (or link) your initial reasons for suspecting me.

Your whole game has been different, not just your mindset

2:26 p.m.

You literally entered awkwardly demanding reads

I will note that I am "throwing names", Silver, mainly because I have read about 10% of this game so I don't really have reads.

I have read all of this game and don't really have reads

Code

Your whole game has been different, not just your mindset

Yeah my game is defined by my mindset my dude

Your mindset needs to change stat then

Code

I have read all of this game and don't really have reads

That's even a better reason of ehy I would be acting differently

2:27 p.m.

Reads are hard this game

2:27 p.m.

Reads were easy last game

Why haven't you been reading

Dragon

Reads are hard this game

Hard in what way

2:28 p.m.

Motivation, people are blurring together, or just you can’t get a grasp of people?

2:29 p.m.

What about a different angle then, I can’t remember if you’ve stated them and I’m not going to go search

2:29 p.m.

But what are your town reads right now?

Dragon

Why would I be comfortbale as the top wagon???

Ive barely seen you all day and you randomly pop up when you’re top wagon only to try and push literally everbody else.

Code

Why haven't you been reading

I've been busy irl

TheSilverScepter

If you’re town, then there really shouldn’t be anything to fear

Exactly

I have a lot less time these days for mafia

TheSilverScepter

But what are your town reads right now?

Iirc he has none

2:34 p.m.

@Dragon why switch to nocti?

TheSilverScepter

Motivation, people are blurring together, or just you can’t get a grasp of people?

1. A lot of posts feel like things that can just come from any alignment. 2. A few people are acting similar to the last game where they were town but are being suspected by others and I'm conflicted on whether I am tpwnreading the personality or the playstyle. 3. I have no meta on anyone here basically and the people I maybe have meta on are playing differently on discord than on the site I know them from 4. Idk there's too many spammy posts and not enough in depth thoughts or interesting takes and I don't know hoe to get a handle on this style of game

uhm (Kazuma)

@Dragon why switch to nocti?

Idk. Should I vote you instead?

TheSilverScepter

But what are your town reads right now?

My townreads are Code, Luka, xia

2:36 p.m.

And Cait

Dragon

My townreads are Code, Luka, xia

Then why vote xia?

I disliked her vote on me

2:36 p.m.

But she explained it

Dragon

My townreads are Code, Luka, xia

Wow ur getting snowed... sadcat

So I went back to townreading her

So… was OMGUS?

Luka

Wow ur getting snowed... sadcat

By whom?

Code and Xia

TheSilverScepter

So… was OMGUS?

Kinda?

Eh, not fully OMGUS but to some extent

Luka

Wow ur getting snowed... sadcat

Snowed?

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Cait Town Read:
Gyp
Silver Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Code
Kazuma POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad Note:

If my POE is wrong, go into Code next probably sadcat

2:37 p.m.

Reposting tbh

Luka

Code and Xia

They are the two I said I might be townreading for personality rather than play in this game.

Luka do you still not agree with the reads on Xia?

TheSilverScepter

Luka do you still not agree with the reads on Xia?

Theyve made one good post all game

Or has that just been copy and pasted every time

2:38 p.m.

Got it

I am not familiar with their wolfgame so I can't make an educated judgment on whether the similarity to last game is town indicative or not

2:38 p.m.

So I'm just guessing it is

2:38 p.m.

Now I have a confession to make

Dragon

Now I have a confession to make

You should claim vig alr MenheraSleep3

2:39 p.m.

I think ifs +ev to live today

Last game I was playing on PC. This game I don't have access to PC and I'm playing on my phone. And it's a lot more annoying to read ISOs and stuff on phone

2:40 p.m.

So that's why I am reading less and not doing things like looking up Code's wolf meta

2:40 p.m.

Which I should but I really don't feel like

2:40 p.m.

Code can you please tell me if you are this forceful and blunt as a wolf?

Luka

You should claim vig alr MenheraSleep3

Well no need unless deadline is near

2:41 p.m.

What happened to your wolfread of me btw?

Dragon

Well no need unless deadline is near

Meh, I like claiming it now to not drag things out tbh, but up to you.

i mean, it'd be better for the vig to not claim unless they're at risk of being lynched anyways

2:42 p.m.

since they could easily be the n1 kill otherwise

Xiaysa

i mean, it'd be better for the vig to not claim unless they're at risk of being lynched anyways

Shig is in danger

Dragon

What happened to your wolfread of me btw?

We'll see

Cool

yeah but there's still a while left of d1

I think Luka is town

2:42 p.m.

Is all I can say

so it's not an immediate risk as of now

Did I mention I was mason with him?

Xiaysa

so it's not an immediate risk as of now

True true

Dragon

Did I mention I was mason with him?

PR twinsies

so even if he is the vig, he shouldn't claim unless he's still at risk of it at the end of the day

Xia help me vote Gypyx please

Luka

PR twinsies

True

Did I mention Xia dies tonight cause they do MenheraSigh

dw we've heard

Yeah dw I'm vigging her

Xiaysa

dw we've heard

Dragon

Yeah dw I'm vigging her

Finally ur hard claiming vig, took u long nough LilliebeeHeart

Im rly good at pr hunting

2:45 p.m.

Ur the only canidate left

i'm not scared of dying as mentioned before, people can kill me if they want

Code can u vote Gypyx and just vig me?

Claiming now when u have 4 voted is best

Xiaysa

i'm not scared of dying as mentioned before, people can kill me if they want

I have a gun MenheraWink1

Luka

I have a gun MenheraWink1

i'll look forward to you shooting me AG_WinkShhh

Xiaysa

i'll look forward to you shooting me AG_WinkShhh

Maybe.. we can shoot eachother YancyBlush

sadly i don't have a gun, so i can't

2:47 p.m.

otherwise we could have

2:47 p.m.

Xiaysa

sadly i don't have a gun, so i can't

Do u guys use knives MenheraCurious1

Xiaysa

i mean, it'd be better for the vig to not claim unless they're at risk of being lynched anyways

I dont see how he doesn’t get lynched here anyway tbh

i don't have any knives either why

uhm (Kazuma)

I dont see how he doesn’t get lynched here anyway tbh

Gas thisp

2:48 p.m.

Burn this

2:48 p.m.

Murder this

no weapons here

Xiaysa

no weapons here

i'm clumsy, so i was forbidden from having anything dangerous around Thinking

Dragon

Xia help me vote Gypyx please

Why gyp?

I'm down to killing Kaz but apparently nobody else

Xiaysa

i'm clumsy, so i was forbidden from having anything dangerous around Thinking

Wow, guess ur not preforming the kill tn AcerolaPensive

And also xia voted me as a chainsaw for Kaz

@Alive Line NE Gas Kazuma

Does she think she's still masons with them

Luka

Wow, guess ur not preforming the kill tn AcerolaPensive

i couldn't have even if i had wanted to

Dragon

I'm down to killing Kaz but apparently nobody else

You’re down to kill everyone right now

Xiaysa

i couldn't have even if i had wanted to

Sur...

Dragon

And also xia voted me as a chainsaw for Kaz

nah, i just feel like i want to let him have a chance to improve

2:50 p.m.

but if anyone got any good reasons for lynching kaz idm jumping onto it

Luka

Sur...

yep, sadly that's the truth

Xiaysa

yep, sadly that's the truth

Vote Kazuma Meow

2:51 p.m.

@Code Vote Kazuma, unless you have a read to town them outside of they're acting as normal (which isn't a good meta read FTR.)

2:51 p.m.

@Dragon Vote Kazuma please

will you shoot me if i don't? SmugSip

Xiaysa

will you shoot me if i don't? SmugSip

Yes now vote

2:52 p.m.

@Gypyx vote Kazuma please @frosted ✧ Innocent child, plz vote Kazuma

2:52 p.m.

@TheSilverScepter @Caitlin ISO Kazuma and vote them please after seeing the post nothing but horrible things for the last 10 years

Ok my instincts were right kek

TheSilverScepter

Ok my instincts were right kek

What were they?

2:53 p.m.

Either way, please vote Kazuma

Dragon

Now I have a confession to make

Shig was vig after this lmao

If they're town I will be completely and utterly blindsided

ok !!

TheSilverScepter

Shig was vig after this lmao

Yeah, now vote Kazy please

i trust :))

@Dragon Vote Kazuma please

He*

frosted ✧

i trust :))

ily

My bad

true, if shig really is the vig then idm

Vote Kazuma Xia

no need to tell me twice

2:54 p.m.

Thrice

2:54 p.m.

Murder Kazuma 10 times over

oh my

Luka

Murder Kazuma 10 times over

If they're town like, this is horrible They explicitly stated they're still voting Shig if they claimed vig like. No

2:54 p.m.

Die

yeah, if there's no cc then we don't have any reason to lynch him as of now

Also, they've posted nothing but crap the entire game and expect to be town read. Like, that's just horrible. Their pushes are bad and ttheir town reads radiate TMI

Xiaysa

yeah, if there's no cc then we don't have any reason to lynch him as of now

Yeah

2:55 p.m.

Vote Kazuma

already done a while ago dw SmugSip

<3

2:56 p.m.

Ly

what happened to you and gyp?

@TheSilverScepter What are your thoughts on Kazuma? You haven't mentioned them once.

Xiaysa

what happened to you and gyp?

Platonic love o.o

ahhh got it

2:57 p.m.

icic

2:57 p.m.

I just came back (sorry had some sudden stuff to do) and what’s this about Kazuma

Luka

@Code Vote Kazuma, unless you have a read to town them outside of they're acting as normal (which isn't a good meta read FTR.)

Explain to me why or I'm not going to do it

It just feels like Luka’s jumped onto getting Kazuma out all of a sudden

3:01 p.m.

Is there an explanation anyone could provide

kaz said he doesn't see why shig wouldn't be lynched today even after shig pretty much soft-confirmed that he was the vig

3:02 p.m.

pretty much it

I see

so hard to tell this game ChillBar_dead

Ikr

uhm (Kazuma)

You’re down to kill everyone right now

No. I am not down to kill Luka or Code or Xia or Cait

3:03 p.m.

So if by "everyone" you mean "people I am not townreading who are part of my PoE", then yes I'm down to vote everyone

Xiaysa

ahhh got it

Wow xia is mafia for pretending she didn't know it was platonic

3:05 p.m.

I'm now down to kill xia (jkjk)

Xia how was your day at uni?

Luka

@TheSilverScepter @Caitlin ISO Kazuma and vote them please after seeing the post nothing but horrible things for the last 10 years

What did i say

It's pocketing time

Dragon

Xia how was your day at uni?

o no uni today, my first lecture after easter break is gonna be on thursday

Luka

If they're town like, this is horrible They explicitly stated they're still voting Shig if they claimed vig like. No

What

Oh okay

i've had a slight fever today tho

Code

Explain to me why or I'm not going to do it

They're doing nothing all game, they proposed a lynch on Shig despite Shig softing vig, they're not willing to re-evaluate, they have 7 town reads w/o reasoning behind thme, they spearheaded a pshitty push on me, they're to willing to change votes, their ISO is just shit.

Oh that sucks. Get well soon!

uhm (Kazuma)

What

Die

3:07 p.m.

Wolf

Luka

Also, they've posted nothing but crap the entire game and expect to be town read. Like, that's just horrible. Their pushes are bad and ttheir town reads radiate TMI

What?!?

NoctiChill

It just feels like Luka’s jumped onto getting Kazuma out all of a sudden

Yes

but still went out with my mom to have some cake at the cafe, since i'll be going back to where i live for uni tomorrow

uhm (Kazuma)

What?!?

You're not posting well and feigning confusion on my posts is wolfy

Xiaysa

but still went out with my mom to have some cake at the cafe, since i'll be going back to where i live for uni tomorrow

Oh wait that's right you went home for the break

3:08 p.m.

Did you get to ride the horse???

Dragon

Oh wait that's right you went home for the break

yupp

Xiaysa

kaz said he doesn't see why shig wouldn't be lynched today even after shig pretty much soft-confirmed that he was the vig

Ahh I see

not this time, we decided to not overdo it with riding him since he got an injury in one of his front legs

Oh wow

Welp. @Code don’t let luka live past D2

Is he gonna be fine?

he will be, it'll just take a lil time

Phew

did shigad claim vig?

Well did you at least have fun?

Luka

They're doing nothing all game, they proposed a lynch on Shig despite Shig softing vig, they're not willing to re-evaluate, they have 7 town reads w/o reasoning behind thme, they spearheaded a pshitty push on me, they're to willing to change votes, their ISO is just shit.

This is reaching hard but sure

Gypyx

did shigad claim vig?

No

ok

Dragon

No

Then why is luka saying you did? Im so confused

Don't worry Kaz

Luka

They're doing nothing all game, they proposed a lynch on Shig despite Shig softing vig, they're not willing to re-evaluate, they have 7 town reads w/o reasoning behind thme, they spearheaded a pshitty push on me, they're to willing to change votes, their ISO is just shit.

How has shig softed

Just die in peace knowing you saved me from dying

because there was some hinting from shig about him possibly being vig, but no hard confirmations as of yet

3:11 p.m.

but no one wants to risk potentially lynching the vig

Link it

Luka

Also, they've posted nothing but crap the entire game and expect to be town read. Like, that's just horrible. Their pushes are bad and ttheir town reads radiate TMI

And I thought I was hostile

Luka

@TheSilverScepter What are your thoughts on Kazuma? You haven't mentioned them once.

Help? I have?

Dragon

Code can you please tell me if you are this forceful and blunt as a wolf?

Yes but I would be more considered about how I react to things and not so carefree about the sus I bring to myself

Okay so I can self clear by confirming who the vig is on day 2. If I can say the vig's name on the first post I make on day 2 and the vig hasn't died then I am clear since I knew who the vig was and didn't kill them.

Dragon

Just die in peace knowing you saved me from dying

Sigh

Code

Yes but I would be more considered about how I react to things and not so carefree about the sus I bring to myself

Okay

uhm (Kazuma)

Sigh

Do you have anyone you suspect except me?

I have no words for you lot

PSA if this wagon goes stale kaz is probably town

uhm (Kazuma)

Welp. @Code don’t let luka live past D2

Horrible

@Code @Xiaysa avenge me

uhm (Kazuma)

This is reaching hard but sure

you're not refuting my points

In which case lynch the bottom bitch catboy

Code

PSA if this wagon goes stale kaz is probably town

Explain the logic?

Dragon

Explain the logic?

Nge taught it to me

Luka

you're not refuting my points

I have very few fucks to give im afraid

Code

Nge taught it to me

Okay but what's the theory here

That mafia just hop onto a wagon they know to be town thereby giving them a massive vote number and nothing changes the rest of the day

Code

In which case lynch the bottom bitch catboy

“Bottom bitch cat boy”

uhm (Kazuma)

“Bottom bitch cat boy”

Talking about Luka dw

Code

That mafia just hop onto a wagon they know to be town thereby giving them a massive vote number and nothing changes the rest of the day

Oh I see

Dragon

Okay so I can self clear by confirming who the vig is on day 2. If I can say the vig's name on the first post I make on day 2 and the vig hasn't died then I am clear since I knew who the vig was and didn't kill them.

Also that’s not, how it works

I know. Im dying

TheSilverScepter

Also that’s not, how it works

I know I realized I'm dumb after I wrote that

uhm (Kazuma)

I know. Im dying

It won't be at my hands

Help

Unfortunately I am not allowed to delete posts

Code

It won't be at my hands

Of laughter

I still know who the vig is though

3:17 p.m.

Though it's pretty clear I am getting NK'd if Kaz flips scum so it doesn't even matter

Dragon

I still know who the vig is though

Can you explain how you would know cus I’m still really confused about this entire game

NoctiChill

Can you explain how you would know cus I’m still really confused about this entire game

I ammvery smart and can read subtext

NoctiChill

Can you explain how you would know cus I’m still really confused about this entire game

i agree! i don’t understand how vig could be found ?

3:17 p.m.

ohh hmm

Luka

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Cait Town Read:
Gyp
Silver Light Town:
Xia (I don't actually agree w/ this, but people I town town them.
Code
Kazuma POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad Note:

If my POE is wrong, go into Code next probably sadcat

You're ibsessedn

It’s just reading in between the lines

Obsessed

TheSilverScepter

It’s just reading in between the lines

Yeah

You don’t have to hunt for vig as town

3:18 p.m.

That’s not really the focus

Idk as in idk how someone would soft claim

Kinda wanna steer from this

Okay so Silver

Hi

You are right I don't have to but where's the fun in not pr hunting as town

Oh that was to Frosted lol

3:19 p.m.

I pr hunt as town too because it’s fun

3:19 p.m.

Just saying it’s not a priority

One of my favorite variations of this gams is Avalon where town often hunts for merlin and then pretends to be merlin while following their reads

3:19 p.m.

Okay fair enough

Luka

Do u guys use knives MenheraCurious1

She's like 15 I hope not

Wow that's disrespectful

3:20 p.m.

She's 20

??? wdym 15

3:20 p.m.

and wdym 21

3:20 p.m.

3:20 p.m.

20*

3:20 p.m.

i'm 21

Wait are you not 20?

smh

Oh

turning 22 in june

I'm sorryyyy

smhhh

I don't know why I thought 20

well, 20 is close enough still

Thank you merciful goddess of wisdom

and i guess code isn't wrong either, since mentally i am forever 15

Ha I knew ittt

I like how this chat has become pink and blue

pink and blue are great colours

I agree!!!

3:22 p.m.

My favorites

fun fact; my vtuber model (for whenever i get to finally buy a pc to actually stream with it) is pink and blue themed

3:23 p.m.

Dragon

She's 20

thought she was younger

so it's prolly one of my favourite colours

don't see how that's disrespectful but whatever

Xiaysa

pink and blue are great colours

:D

Xiaysa

fun fact; my vtuber model (for whenever i get to finally buy a pc to actually stream with it) is pink and blue themed

cool!!

Code

thought she was younger

should i take that as a compliment? i'll take it as a compliment

3:24 p.m.

Xiaysa

pink and blue are great colours

I agree

i got some people calling me grandma already

Woah what

yep

That’s wild

ikr???

3:25 p.m.

it's even weirder when i got some people calling me a baby, while others call me grandma/ancient

3:25 p.m.

sometimes even within the same community

Wow uh

I still don't think Kaz is mafia

3:26 p.m.

No way my guy is dumb enough to OPENLY ADMIT to wanting to lynch a vig claim

3:26 p.m.

He's gotta be better than that

it wasn't a very direct claim either, as of now

It wasn't even a claim

yeah

I've done the same thing before as a mason claim.

just not a denial

That

3:27 p.m.

Luka's flip felt really volatile

Yeah

And "he's willing to switch votes" is apparently mafia now?

true, you got a point there

Last I checked that was towny

I mean I’m willing to switch votes anytime

3:28 p.m.

I don’t see why that’s mafia

3:28 p.m.

Unless there’s something fishy about why they would want to

If we're talking about switching votes being sus let's talk about how Luka has wanted me, xia, kaz, and others all within the space of... 12 hours? 24?

I’ll ISO Luka’s messages and check

Imma just, stick with my read of Code/Luka v/v

3:29 p.m.

I’ll reconsider when needed but

3:30 p.m.

I can’t see either of them being wolf rn

Luka has wanted Xia, me, Kaz, Shig, and Nocti all within just the last half day

When did Luka want Nocti

3:30 p.m.

Huh

Flipped Kaz from town lean to hard scum in the space of one message on a non-claim

TheSilverScepter

When did Luka want Nocti

Read his last townreads list

3:31 p.m.

It's weak sauce and almost smells like Shigad/Luka W/W

3:32 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) I'll avenge you if you die but avenge my legacy if it's me

3:33 p.m.

Also note how Luka said multiple times he was willing for a Shig wagon but never voted it

Eh, I mean I have Nocti in POE, it doesn’t sound like too outrageous?

Votes Kaz at the first opportunity

Is it that you’re not happy with his voting and sporadic reading?

Xiaysa

fun fact; my vtuber model (for whenever i get to finally buy a pc to actually stream with it) is pink and blue themed

Fun fact: me and xia like spamming fun facts

TheSilverScepter

Eh, I mean I have Nocti in POE, it doesn’t sound like too outrageous?

Wanting Noc isn't the problem. I'm commenting about Luka calling having 483829 vote swaps/read swaps sus but he himself doing it.

Mhm, got it

3:34 p.m.

I’m receptive to what you’re saying

3:34 p.m.

But also

3:34 p.m.

I think he’s turn lol

Hmm

3:34 p.m.

Luka has been accusing a lot of people

Luka's flip felt really volatile And "he's willing to switch votes" is apparently mafia now? Last I checked that was towny If we're talking about switching votes being sus let's talk about how Luka has wanted me, xia, kaz, and others all within the space of... 12 hours? 24? Luka has wanted Xia, me, Kaz, Shig, and Nocti all within just the last half day. Flipped Kaz from town lean to hard scum in the space of one message on a non-claim It's weak sauce and almost smells like Shigad/Luka W/W Also note how Luka said multiple times he was willing for a Shig wagon but never voted it. Votes Kaz at the first opportunity

3:35 p.m.

Heres my full essay on the subject so fsr

3:35 p.m.

@TheSilverScepter

Xiaysa

fun fact; my vtuber model (for whenever i get to finally buy a pc to actually stream with it) is pink and blue themed

Also how do you create vtuber models?

Code

@TheSilverScepter

Will read when I’m out of class

TheSilverScepter

When did Luka want Nocti

Hmm He’s had me on null before leaning to town Then townie On some of his reads I’m not even there And now I’m PoE

I'm no longer towning Luka

NoctiChill

Hmm He’s had me on null before leaning to town Then townie On some of his reads I’m not even there And now I’m PoE

I don’t see why Luka shouldn’t PoE me its just there’s rarely a reason to all these switches (edited)

3:37 p.m.

*I can

NoctiChill

I don’t see why Luka shouldn’t PoE me its just there’s rarely a reason to all these switches (edited)

Another thing he accuses Kaz of but seems to be doing himself

Dragon

Also how do you create vtuber models?

Ah I didn't make it myself, a friend of mine did

NoctiChill

I don’t see why Luka shouldn’t PoE me its just there’s rarely a reason to all these switches (edited)

Wait I can edit now..

3:38 p.m.

What.

Yeah but not allowed to in the rules for games still

Xiaysa

so it's prolly one of my favourite colours

Nice

Xiaysa

Yeah but not allowed to in the rules for games still

Oh yeah

3:38 p.m.

There was a mistake in my wording mb

frosted ✧

:D

Nice

Dw it happens

Xiaysa

it's even weirder when i got some people calling me a baby, while others call me grandma/ancient

Lol

@Xiaysa @NoctiChill @Dragon thoughts on Luka based on the above

Definitely suspicious

3:40 p.m.

I wouldn’t town him

Code

@Xiaysa @NoctiChill @Dragon thoughts on Luka based on the above

Honestly, I'd agree that it's sus He keeps on jumping from one person to another

From ISO I can’t exactly see the reasoning for most of the flips either

Even if it was in order to apply some pressure onto them to see if they mess up or so, the way he's doing it just... Isn't it

I have half a mind to push him today tbh

3:41 p.m.

Idk if its strong enough or not

3:42 p.m.

I've played with him before and he has never efforted day 1

Idk if it works in mafia but what would happen if we have multiple people pushing

Ideally a lynch

Well we could give him a chance today as well, and see how it goes And if it doesn't go too well, then we can push him tomorrow

3:42 p.m.

Unless there's any strong enough feelings about pushing him today

Xiaysa

Well we could give him a chance today as well, and see how it goes And if it doesn't go too well, then we can push him tomorrow

Give him an inch and he will take 5 miles, this isn't a risk I'm prepared to take

Yeah, that's another thing to consider

How do I remove votes again-

Luka can and will deepwolf

3:43 p.m.

He is so slippery

NoctiChill

How do I remove votes again-

./unvote

NoctiChill

How do I remove votes again-

I’ve done it

Anyway peace✌

If we aim at him we cannot miss or were fucked

Ping me when you’ve come to your senses

3:43 p.m.

My internet is down fuck

3:43 p.m.

Why can I see y’all typing but not send anything

3:43 p.m.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaah

@uhm (Kazuma)

Shit internets back

Luka/Shig w/w?

Code

Luka/Shig w/w?

What does w/w mean

Both wolf

Code

Luka/Shig w/w?

Possibly. Let me read

Both have been very accusatory

Taking a break

Alr cya later

Consider if he's too much of a threat to leave alive

3:45 p.m.

Ttyl

Dragon

I still know who the vig is though

If you’re not vig why tf is luka pushing votes on me?

Code

@Xiaysa @NoctiChill @Dragon thoughts on Luka based on the above

I don't think luka's willingness to change votes is scummy. I don't think his hypocrisy is scummy. I don't see how you could ever see him as w/w with me just bcuz of egging me on to "claim". Idk why he didn't vote me though

uhm (Kazuma)

If you’re not vig why tf is luka pushing votes on me?

Because Luka imied he's townreading me anyway

3:46 p.m.

And the comment of "we will still lynch shig if he's a vig" has the same weight whether I'm a vig or not.

3:46 p.m.

Implied*

3:47 p.m.

Also why are you asking me and not Luka?

Code

No way my guy is dumb enough to OPENLY ADMIT to wanting to lynch a vig claim

Thank you, im Genuinley confused

Am I supposed to be Luka's speaker now?

3:47 p.m.

Okay Kaz can you PLEASE provode an alt wagon instead of compaining about the wagon

3:48 p.m.

And then you'd understand why I was suggesting alt wagons when I was on top

Code

@uhm (Kazuma) I'll avenge you if you die but avenge my legacy if it's me

Very well

Code

Luka/Shig w/w?

Lol

3:48 p.m.

Nah, I would be hard defending him as w/w

3:48 p.m.

I can do it

Code

I've played with him before and he has never efforted day 1

Not a good read on me, I don't effort due to multitabling. I'm not doing that here.

Luka

Nah, I would be hard defending him as w/w

Luka is speaking the truth btw

Code

I'm no longer towning Luka

You finally see the light

Xiaysa

Even if it was in order to apply some pressure onto them to see if they mess up or so, the way he's doing it just... Isn't it

I strongly disagree, I think it's going great!

Dragon

Luka is speaking the truth btw

uhm (Kazuma)

You finally see the light

If the light is horrible

NoctiChill

Wait I can edit now..

Don't edit

Can you explain why you want to wagon Kazuma besides the whole voting vig thing

Luka

If the light is horrible

...I'd rather be blind

NoctiChill

I don’t see why Luka shouldn’t PoE me its just there’s rarely a reason to all these switches (edited)

A lack of reasoning doesn't corrilate to something being wolfy

NoctiChill

Hmm He’s had me on null before leaning to town Then townie On some of his reads I’m not even there And now I’m PoE

You're in POE, you've been in POE

3:50 p.m.

you haven't posted anything good

Luka

Don't edit

Yeah I forgot mb

NoctiChill

Can you explain why you want to wagon Kazuma besides the whole voting vig thing

There's nothing towny about Kaz this game

3:50 p.m.

Why is Kaz towny?

I’m not towning Kaz I just wanted an explanation

Dragon

Because Luka imied he's townreading me anyway

Imied?

Code

Luka's flip felt really volatile And "he's willing to switch votes" is apparently mafia now? Last I checked that was towny If we're talking about switching votes being sus let's talk about how Luka has wanted me, xia, kaz, and others all within the space of... 12 hours? 24? Luka has wanted Xia, me, Kaz, Shig, and Nocti all within just the last half day. Flipped Kaz from town lean to hard scum in the space of one message on a non-claim It's weak sauce and almost smells like Shigad/Luka W/W Also note how Luka said multiple times he was willing for a Shig wagon but never voted it. Votes Kaz at the first opportunity

I'm willing to wagon them, I'm not joining it I'm not casing willing to siwtch votes Stop spewing shit

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

ye

Luka

you haven't posted anything good

Fair, I’m new and I’ve got no idea what I’m doing

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

never

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I never said that brother

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I don’t want to get heated

uhm (Kazuma)

I never said that brother

You did?

3:51 p.m.

Wait

3:52 p.m.

Luka help me find the quote

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I didnt

uhm (Kazuma)

I don’t want to get heated

I see

He didn’t it’s just a PoE

NoctiChill

He didn’t it’s just a PoE

Which I was including

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Im not complaining, just wondering why I’m getting lynched all of a sudden. If town wants to yeet me over luka and you thats on them really

Dragon

And then you'd understand why I was suggesting alt wagons when I was on top

I still dont

Cba to get into another argument with luka so I'm not gonna respond to anything unless it's a straight lie/inaccurate

uhm (Kazuma)

Im not complaining, just wondering why I’m getting lynched all of a sudden. If town wants to yeet me over luka and you thats on them really

I'm town and I'm pretty sure Luka is town so

3:53 p.m.

Worst case scenario we're lynching one town over another town

Dragon

There's nothing towny about Kaz this game

Same can be said for you bro

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I don't want Shig or Nocti, I haven't voiced me wanting you either. The only person I've voiced me actually wanting is Kaz

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Code is probably w atp or else they're playing like, rly bad and idt they're a bad player

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

How about.. Let's not?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Good question

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yeah, it is volatile

Code

Cba to get into another argument with luka so I'm not gonna respond to anything unless it's a straight lie/inaccurate

This

Luka

Code is probably w atp or else they're playing like, rly bad and idt they're a bad player

They payed all over the plave in NE62 tho

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

TWTBAW isn't a good read for a relatively newer player

Played

3:54 p.m.

They might be wolf

3:54 p.m.

But

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

How am I obsessed, I have u town

3:54 p.m.

Ur obsessed with me

Can you do me a favor and just read Day 3 of that game?

3:54 p.m.

It's relatively short

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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

k

And Code literally calls every living player scum in that game

3:55 p.m.

Which is pretty darn sad

This is how kazuma reacted in #co15-chat Just attack me for scum reading them

Dragon

I'm town and I'm pretty sure Luka is town so

Ehhhh whatever. As long as neither of you make it to D3 im good personally

Dragon

They payed all over the plave in NE62 tho

#ne62-chat

3:55 p.m.

Sure

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1220795644709441586

1300 posts im good

3:55 p.m.

I'll just stick w/ them being wolf

Code

Cba to get into another argument with luka so I'm not gonna respond to anything unless it's a straight lie/inaccurate

This is admitting my messages have truth

Luka

#ne62-chat

Oh just realized you watched

3:56 p.m.

My bad

uhm (Kazuma)

Im not complaining, just wondering why I’m getting lynched all of a sudden. If town wants to yeet me over luka and you thats on them really

You pushing me is on you

Dragon

Oh just realized you watched

Lmao, it's fine to much words imo

Luka

I don't want Shig or Nocti, I haven't voiced me wanting you either. The only person I've voiced me actually wanting is Kaz

Whole sentence is a lie when all have been poe or sus or "kill code if wrong on any"

Luka

1300 posts im good

Just read last 100

Dragon

Luka help me find the quote

I can't see replied to messages

Code

Whole sentence is a lie when all have been poe or sus or "kill code if wrong on any"

Yeah, cause you're next in POE. I can't see a world where you're both correct on your reads and your towns are correct

3:57 p.m.

IE: You're not villagery

Luka

I can't see replied to messages

Click on them

Dragon

Just read last 100

Sure

Dragon

Click on them

I cannot

Luka

This is admitting my messages have truth

Nah its just I'm not going to fight you defending yourself unless there's something blatant I want to point out

I'm using a VPN

3:57 p.m.

discord breaks on VPNs

Oh

Code

Nah its just I'm not going to fight you defending yourself unless there's something blatant I want to point out

k

Luka

Yeah, cause you're next in POE. I can't see a world where you're both correct on your reads and your towns are correct

You can't read me for shit it seems

Code

You can't read me for shit it seems

You think I'm wolf here so I think that's on you

Code

3:57 p.m.

How confident are you that I am wolf?

Bitches I cant read him Calls me a wolf Pushes me

3:57 p.m.

Like

3:57 p.m.

Lmao

Because I had pretty good town reads last game

50% chance Kazuma is bad town ftr

3:58 p.m.

not confident in that read anymore

So it would be nice if you sheep me on Luka being town

I'm saying it bc you whined I can't read you in both games I played with you

Xia has posted horribly all game I still want them dead

And yet now the tables are turned

Code

I'm saying it bc you whined I can't read you in both games I played with you

I was in a snarky mood probably

3:58 p.m.

I cant read a lot of people

You always are

Luka

50% chance Kazuma is bad town ftr

Lol why change up?

Just vig me before Elo

uhm (Kazuma)

Lol why change up?

Cause youre playing horribly and I'm wondering if you play this bad as wolf

Sorry before f5

Code

You always are

I'm sometimes cute

Elo is not a word here

You're about as cute as ass fluff

Code

You're about as cute as ass fluff

Omg I love fluffy things

@Code don't ignore me pls

Luka

Cause youre playing horribly and I'm wondering if you play this bad as wolf

I dont think ive done anything horrible here

Dragon

Elo is not a word here

uhm (Kazuma)

I dont think ive done anything horrible here

You have

Not getting into this with you

Youre casing me but not voting me

Bye

Your case against me is just OMGUS

3:59 p.m.

You agreed on Xia town from Code without explaining why

3:59 p.m.

You agreed to kill the vig soft even if they outright claim vig and youre pushing it

3:59 p.m.

You have like, 4 towns and elaobrated on none of the

Code

Bye

Cya

Luka

Youre casing me but not voting me

I said yesterday that theres no way you get lynched today even if i wanted to

uhm (Kazuma)

I said yesterday that theres no way you get lynched today even if i wanted to

There is a way though, at least 3 people itg think im wolfy and you can case the others I could lynch myself here, you can too

Luka

You agreed on Xia town from Code without explaining why

I believe I have actually.

uhm (Kazuma)

I believe I have actually.

How, aside from "they're acting as usual"

4:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224423573880307974

4:00 p.m.

Xia isnt scum

4:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224617872987389962

Im not even

Towning xiai nst hard

4:00 p.m.

your only reasonings

Going to argue

full iso incase youre curious

4:01 p.m.

so youre clearly lying here

4:01 p.m.

no matter what

I pray to god its you

given, you cant even show me where you towned xia

uhm (Kazuma)

I pray to god its you

You are literally confirmed to be lying and you wont even back up your shit

4:01 p.m.

and the worst part is I kinda think youre otwn but I think you should still fucking di

4:01 p.m.

die*

4:01 p.m.

uhm

Luka

You are literally confirmed to be lying and you wont even back up your shit

I cba. Kill me idc

Just murder Nocti tbh

uhm (Kazuma)

I cba. Kill me idc

Omg if ur town this is fucking ohrrible

4:02 p.m.

Literally just

4:02 p.m.

link a godamned post

4:02 p.m.

to where you backedu p your read

Luka

Just murder Nocti tbh

Ok then

Luka

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Literally every mention of Xia

Luka why are ypu voting Notci?

4:02 p.m.

Nocti*

Dragon

Luka why are ypu voting Notci?

Lurking w/o contributing, Kazuma had a shitty but towny reaction

"I don't want nocti"

I think codes frustration is horrible but genuine

Code

"I don't want nocti"

Now I wont Nocti, I didn't before

4:03 p.m.

and I didnt say anything along those lines

Uh huh

Fair

4:03 p.m.

I agreek that Code is town

Luka

I don't want Shig or Nocti, I haven't voiced me wanting you either. The only person I've voiced me actually wanting is Kaz

"I never said anything along those lines"

Cait is being to silent rn and I dont like it

Code

"I never said anything along those lines"

I havent

You haven't read the post I linked have you

I don't want Shig or Nocti

4:04 p.m.

As in, I didnt at the time

4:04 p.m.

now I do

4:04 p.m.

And, you cant link a post in which I said that I wanted Nocti

Based on...?

Code

Based on...?

Wdym

Luka

Lurking w/o contributing, Kazuma had a shitty but towny reaction

This whole game is confusing me that’s why I couldn’t think of things to post

Luka

And, you cant link a post in which I said that I wanted Nocti

I read you saying you never said you didn't want nocti

But Idrc

Luka

Lurking w/o contributing, Kazuma had a shitty but towny reaction

This Nocti suddenly appeared, and they arent really contributing to anything at hand

Luka

Wdym

You didn't want her 2 seconds ago now you do

NoctiChill

This whole game is confusing me that’s why I couldn’t think of things to post

ic

4:05 p.m.

And who do you think is wolf?

Code

You didn't want her 2 seconds ago now you do

More like, 20 minutes ago; and yes

4:05 p.m.

I'm a flimsly player unless I have a confident read

You didn't want Kaz 2 seconds before that then you dud

Luka

More like, 20 minutes ago; and yes

Stop being pedantic it doesn't help anyone

Oh no I always wanted Kazuma I was just respecting your read

Uh huh

Luka

I'm a flimsly player unless I have a confident read

But being inconsistent is WoLfY

Code

But being inconsistent is WoLfY

.. no its towny Wild_Game_Ai_Fa_Sad_Confused

4:05 p.m.

who would say this

You

where

About kaz

lmao

4:06 p.m.

nope

4:06 p.m.

never said that

4:06 p.m.

me saying that theyre not voting me despite talking shit about me, and wanting me dead IE: thinking i'm a wolf is wolfy

I refuse to interact with someone who won't participate in good faith

Being inconsistent is towny since it shows a lack of awareness

I'm gonna go do something meaninfup

bye

Yeaaaaaa

4:08 p.m.

There’s definitely one in the pair of them @Code

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1220795644709441586/1221707296212520961 @Xiaysa can I know what encouraged this last game?

uhm (Kazuma)

There’s definitely one in the pair of them @Code

Worst comes to worst its just Shig. My d1 reads are almost immaculate for hitting one.

nagl

Also @Dragon my phone keeps wanting to autocorrect you to shigella or Shirley so sorry in advance

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Code
Kazuma Town Read:
Silver
Cait Light Town:
Xia
Gyp POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad If I'm wrong somewhere Code is probably backup in my like. Town towns

Luka

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Code
Kazuma Town Read:
Silver
Cait Light Town:
Xia
Gyp POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad If I'm wrong somewhere Code is probably backup in my like. Town towns

Huh

Dragon

Huh

Removed Cait for being to silent

4:14 p.m.

I think that youve been town but I think that my read solidifes D2

Yeah Luka is lock town tbh

I think that silver has been town but im prob underestimating her

4:15 p.m.

Frosted is like super duper pure

4:15 p.m.

Kazuma + Code are fucking cliquey as all hell rn and both of them are pissing me off but theyre town

Luka

Removed Cait for being to silent

But she's not in your PoE?

Luka

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1220795644709441586/1221707296212520961 @Xiaysa can I know what encouraged this last game?

Wym exactly? keqingConfused

I don't quite get what you're asking for

You have too many townreads

Xiaysa

Wym exactly? keqingConfused

I don't quite get what you're asking for

What prompted you to say that read list?

Dragon

But she's not in your PoE?

Moved her down

Dragon

You have too many townreads

Not town read, just order or precidence Just consider those different colors were this to be FM

Wdym?

Like Top is dark green Below is light green ect

Yeah yeah

4:16 p.m.

But if the bottom toer is yellow

4:16 p.m.

And you think at least one of them is town

4:16 p.m.

That's a problem IMO

4:16 p.m.

Tier*

4:17 p.m.

Maybe not for you

4:17 p.m.

Anyway I think you are probably a good enough player to not make this kind of crazy readlists as wolf

Yah, I think at least one in my POE is town since I dont think you guys are s/s I dont know who though

4:17 p.m.

I probably have one misclear

Unless you are so confident in your wolf game that you make intentionally perplexing readlists

4:18 p.m.

Eh

Dragon

Unless you are so confident in your wolf game that you make intentionally perplexing readlists

Absolutely something he could do.

4:19 p.m.

Not out of range.

I am very confident in my wolf game on discord

You're probably good but good wolf players don't normally play this way

4:19 p.m.

IME

Luka

What prompted you to say that read list?

Ahh, I don't remember ngl I found it a lil easier to at least have some more proper reads that game even with doubting myself a lot

I am not this flip floopy is wolf, I just gas Kazuma prob

4:19 p.m.

since I can do that

Code

Not out of range.

I know

Im very confident I can get anybody in this game killed D1 if I wanted

Luka

I am not this flip floopy is wolf, I just gas Kazuma prob

Yeah that's what I think

Xiaysa

Ahh, I don't remember ngl I found it a lil easier to at least have some more proper reads that game even with doubting myself a lot

Why did you find it easier

I feel if you were wolf you woulda killed Kaz and gotten away with it too

4:20 p.m.

So that's why I'm lock towning you

4:20 p.m.

I was just explaining my process

Dragon

I feel if you were wolf you woulda killed Kaz and gotten away with it too

Their playing rly horribly so probably yeah

4:21 p.m.

they're*

Luka

Town Lock:

Luka
Frosted
Code
Kazuma Town Read:
Silver
Cait Light Town:
Xia
Gyp POE:
NoctiChill
Shigad If I'm wrong somewhere Code is probably backup in my like. Town towns

I don’t understand how you want to vote shigad but never do, then when shigad is being voted, immediately switch to me who you’ve wanted all game and were very adamant that im scum… to town locking me and putting shigad in your Poe

Luka

Why did you find it easier

Hmm prolly because I was familiar with more people in that game as I had played with most of them in ne61, whereas this game I've only played with kaz, code and shigad before

uhm (Kazuma)

I don’t understand how you want to vote shigad but never do, then when shigad is being voted, immediately switch to me who you’ve wanted all game and were very adamant that im scum… to town locking me and putting shigad in your Poe

Yah, you played rly bad Shig was alway in my POE

4:21 p.m.

I don't want to vote thme, im entural

@Luka Why am I lock town

Anyway I might also be misclearing someone cause I'm not sure both wolves are lurkers and I'm sort of TRing all the active players

Code

@Luka Why am I lock town

I think that if youre scum im avoiding you in the future

4:22 p.m.

so Youre town

4:22 p.m.

Nearly the whole game youve been attacking my player as opposed to my play

Luka

I think that if youre scum im avoiding you in the future

Can you avoid me anyway

Dragon

I feel if you were wolf you woulda killed Kaz and gotten away with it too

That was never happening

Luka

Nearly the whole game youve been attacking my player as opposed to my play

I've attacked your play too but you keep arguing every single thing I say so you either don't see it or don't want to acknowledge it

Code

Can you avoid me anyway

No, you can avoid me though

uhm (Kazuma)

That was never happening

Soz but it 100% was

Luka

No, you can avoid me though

Hope I flip scum then

Code

I've attacked your play too but you keep arguing every single thing I say so you either don't see it or don't want to acknowledge it

You arent though. You havent responded to any of my logic aside from the fact that you dont want to. I dont know exactly what your goal is here if youre town aside from to make me feel like shit, sorry.

Gonna go so much harder on you in my next scum game

Code

Hope I flip scum then

I'm good.

Code

Gonna go so much harder on you in my next scum game

Okay

Luka

You arent though. You havent responded to any of my logic aside from the fact that you dont want to. I dont know exactly what your goal is here if youre town aside from to make me feel like shit, sorry.

"Haven't responded to" blah blah yes I have, you again just keep arguing everything I say

4:24 p.m.

Just bc you don't agree to it doesn't mean it isn't there

Code

"Haven't responded to" blah blah yes I have, you again just keep arguing everything I say

I mean, feel free to link within the next uhm. 2 hours in which youve responded to my actual points at hand aside from one(iirc?) misunderstanding on your end that I corrected.

Luka

You arent though. You havent responded to any of my logic aside from the fact that you dont want to. I dont know exactly what your goal is here if youre town aside from to make me feel like shit, sorry.

Make YOU feel like shit lol

The problem is you aren't actually interacting with me in good faith.

Code

Make YOU feel like shit lol

.. Yeah?

In GoOd FaItH

You said the same thing-

4:25 p.m.

You're mocking what you said-

Code do me a favor and pretend for a few minutes that me and Luka have just been limmed and flipped town. Who do you vote now?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224812208907747468

4:25 p.m.

Like, I reccomend not mocking yourself?

I'm mocking what you said because every time I try to respond with logic you keep arguing and saying I never tried when in fact I did

4:26 p.m.

So responding to you with what I WANT to say isn't worth my time.

Dragon

Code do me a favor and pretend for a few minutes that me and Luka have just been limmed and flipped town. Who do you vote now?

Limmed = executed btw

Dragon

Code do me a favor and pretend for a few minutes that me and Luka have just been limmed and flipped town. Who do you vote now?

Gyp

Okay let's vote Gyp then

No

Code

I'm mocking what you said because every time I try to respond with logic you keep arguing and saying I never tried when in fact I did

What logic lul

Cause I can save you the trouble

4:26 p.m.

Luka and I are town

Luka

What logic lul

You saying shit like this is exactly why I'm not trying any more

Code

You saying shit like this is exactly why I'm not trying any more

Just link said logic

4:27 p.m.

Lul

No, you not wanting to acknowledge it isn't my problem

4:27 p.m.

You wouldn't agree it was there even if I did

4:28 p.m.

You're impossible to argue with and I'm done with it and with you

Code

No, you not wanting to acknowledge it isn't my problem

Refuses to prove his point

4:28 p.m.

Bitches that im not aknowedging it

4:28 p.m.

Refuses to show where it is

4:28 p.m.

Lul

Luka

Refuses to prove his point

Call me him one more time I fucking dare you

Code

Call me him one more time I fucking dare you

oh sry

4:28 p.m.

they

4:28 p.m.

thats a genuine mistake

Talk to me after the game, until then I'm done talking to you

Can you guys not have the same color please

Code

Talk to me after the game, until then I'm done talking to you

k

Or have different lengths of usernames

Dragon

Or have different lengths of usernames

Tbf mine is shorter

Not enough difference

4:29 p.m.

Especially eith ths pronoun

I'll rename myself Shirley in honor of you

Yay

4:29 p.m.

Or just code

4:30 p.m.

I'll rename myself dragon

And make it purple

4:30 p.m.

All my dragon homies are purple

Okay

4:31 p.m.

It's just really hard to read dialogue betweej the two of you though, for real

Dragon

It's just really hard to read dialogue betweej the two of you though, for real

dw

4:31 p.m.

i passed prods

4:31 p.m.

not gonna play for the rest of the day

4:31 p.m.

bye

Can you vote Gypyx please

4:32 p.m.

Before you go

4:32 p.m.

Wait I'm stupid

4:32 p.m.

I forgoy Gypyx was town

4:33 p.m.

Forgot

day as in uhm

5:19 p.m.

tuesday

5:19 p.m.

not the game day

5:19 p.m.

ill be on at oed

5:19 p.m.

eod

Ohhh you're european cool

It literally says in his profile he’s MST

5:45 p.m.

Help

TheSilverScepter

It literally says in his profile he’s MST

So much people miss this twt...

Honestly, Shig kill might just be best today. Just to resolve the slot and see others reactions. Also, uhm, POE dictates an FoS on them. And if they're town I laugh at Code, and if they're mafia I gain credit.

1:35 a.m.

Idk tho dead game..

1:36 a.m.

Ill think when I awake nyaa.

Luka

Honestly, Shig kill might just be best today. Just to resolve the slot and see others reactions. Also, uhm, POE dictates an FoS on them. And if they're town I laugh at Code, and if they're mafia I gain credit.

If I ever flip I laugh at you so it's all good

Dragon why the fuck are you pushing so hard to vote me

Gypyx

Dragon why the fuck are you pushing so hard to vote me

Last thing he said was "I forgot gypyx was town"

2:32 a.m.

Also he isn't voting yku

2:34 a.m.

Actually no one is

2:34 a.m.

Though tbh I've half a mind to sus you myself now

yeah ik but like uh

2:39 a.m.

how does that happen

2:39 a.m.

that's what i'm asking right now

2:39 a.m.

also i know you're sussing me and idc

2:39 a.m.

how do you push someone without knowing their alignement

Gypyx

how do you push someone without knowing their alignement

That's... tbe entirety of mafia?

Gypyx

how does that happen

Idk what you're talking about

look if you're just gonna take what i'm saying in bad faith like that in all honesty just go away

hi, idk why i'm awake

2:55 a.m.

that's a lie, i'm a degen

2:55 a.m.

but like

Gypyx

how do you push someone without knowing their alignement

can you expand on this more because

2:56 a.m.

this is the whole point of town?

2:56 a.m.

we're uninformed

Yeah

we don't know what alignment people are, that's one of the best things to look for in people

2:56 a.m.

who has TMI and who doesn't

Ok so maybe i'm speaking wrong

yea, i'm more so trying to understand the point you're trying to make

my point was that dragon pushed me while having forgotten his opinion of my alignement

well he's also been just throwing out names that he isn't town reading for vote options so

2:57 a.m.

i'm not too surprised by that lmao

"Wait Gypyx is town"

in all honesty, a moment like that i feel is more rand>town

2:58 a.m.

it shows a more spontaneous thought process

2:59 a.m.

and it felt genuine when i read it

Gypyx

Dragon why the fuck are you pushing so hard to vote me

He is pushing hard to vote everyone

i feel like wolves would want to show a more consistent(?) thought process

3:00 a.m.

consistent might not be the right word

3:00 a.m.

i guess more sensible?

3:00 a.m.

mmm

3:00 a.m.

how do i phrase this without sounding rude lmao

3:00 a.m.

i guess wolves wouldn't want to present themselves in a manner that makes them get questioned very easily

3:00 a.m.

or do things that garner more attention

That's fair but also the fact is that dragon is acting in a very inconsistent thoughtprocess right now

question

3:02 a.m.

has nocti done anything like, noteworthy?

3:02 a.m.

i would ISO them, but it's late and lazy kek

Nope. Not at all

i'm lazy

3:02 a.m.

mmm

3:02 a.m.

i'll iso

3:02 a.m.

why not

i have to say "who" so that's a no from me

ah

3:03 a.m.

they only have 83 messages in here

Nocti has mostly just been there, maybe commenting a bit every now and then but not really provided any reads

TheSilverScepter

they only have 83 messages in here

Only noteworthy thing is questioning Lukas yeet on me

the first page of their iso is just confusion and being lost

But they're also new iirc, so I'd understand it'd be hard for them too

3:04 a.m.

Yeah

i'm keeping in mind that they seem new, or at least returning to mafia because they said it's been two years

Gypyx

look if you're just gonna take what i'm saying in bad faith like that in all honesty just go away

How tf is that bad faith, you literally said you don't know how we can read people without knowing their alignment but to know their alignment they HAVE TO FLIP

but also, i don't know how much lenience should be given

If you phrased it badly that's on you but don't whine to me for being confused about it

second page is also more confusion, this time with both reading people and pr stuff

TheSilverScepter

but also, i don't know how much lenience should be given

Shoot her tonight

‍♂️

i always feel guilty voting out newer people lmao

3:05 a.m.

there's this part of me that feels empathetic

Gypyx

my point was that dragon pushed me while having forgotten his opinion of my alignement

I don't think HIS opinion was ever this, he was asking Luka to vote you iirc

mm, page three is where nocti starts having more of a presence

3:06 a.m.

which is them chiming in on the luka stuff

3:06 a.m.

the whole discussion with code iirc

NoctiChill

I’m not towning Kaz I just wanted an explanation

this log is interesting to me

3:08 a.m.

it stands out because they start engaging on something, but expressed not having their own opinion

3:08 a.m.

which i guess is like, not bad inherently

3:08 a.m.

but i would expect an opinion to be formed on kaz?

3:08 a.m.

or at least not defending themselves from being seen as possibly towning kaz

@TheSilverScepter newer wolf would probably be more rigid and imo shig never actually changed his opinion on gyp's alignment, he was referring to others(?)

could be a hasty distancing attempt is kaz is wolf

Also shig isn't wholly new though so

shig doesn't seem too new

My point is I don't think you towning him is correvt

they seem to have experience with luka too so i assumed that he played a few games

Code

My point is I don't think you towning him is correvt

he's not a strong town, but i think what i talked about is enough for me to not want to vote him as of right now

What did you talk about

TheSilverScepter

in all honesty, a moment like that i feel is more rand>town

.

3:10 a.m.

from there

3:10 a.m.

i also didn't follow through my promise on reading your paragraph/essay on luka

3:10 a.m.

lemme go read that lmao

Newer wolves would but more experienced wolves would know doing so isn't town AI

i'm not really one to take into account experience and stuff

It isn't a question of is there progression but WHY that progression happened

i like reading people on a blank slate and according to the game

3:11 a.m.

i'll use meta sometimes when i know i can apply it correctly for certain players after i've played with them

I'm not even using meta, I'm just saying that he isn't as new so he would be less inclined to be consistent as wolf

but i'm unfamiliar with pretty much all this PL

3:11 a.m.

eh, fair

3:12 a.m.

point i'm trying to make is i don't let things like experience, reputation, or whatever else stop me from making reads

3:12 a.m.

because then i don't get anywhere lmao

Code

Luka's flip felt really volatile And "he's willing to switch votes" is apparently mafia now? Last I checked that was towny If we're talking about switching votes being sus let's talk about how Luka has wanted me, xia, kaz, and others all within the space of... 12 hours? 24? Luka has wanted Xia, me, Kaz, Shig, and Nocti all within just the last half day. Flipped Kaz from town lean to hard scum in the space of one message on a non-claim It's weak sauce and almost smells like Shigad/Luka W/W Also note how Luka said multiple times he was willing for a Shig wagon but never voted it. Votes Kaz at the first opportunity

i see your point, but also i kind of want to stay strong on my luka town read

3:14 a.m.

largely for his early game

@TheSilverScepter I've iso'd Shig and your point is entiey invalid, let me explain

TheSilverScepter

largely for his early game

reason for this is largely his spat with you; i know you don't like thinking about your interactions with him, but i will still use it to make reads

You say spontaneity is towny but he has been on Gyp and almost EXCLUSIVELY on Gyp the entire game, right from the first few minutes where Gyp random voted him and he pressured her to explain it. He hasn't had a single meaningful sus on anyone else all game except maybe Kaz, and only briefly.

i'll iso him later than to check that

3:16 a.m.

i trust your word

He has never, not once, towned Gyp himself

but also, i don't remember shit lmao

TheSilverScepter

reason for this is largely his spat with you; i know you don't like thinking about your interactions with him, but i will still use it to make reads

NAI imo

maybe?

And the rest of his game is both inconsistent with what I know and perfectly within his scum range

this is where i'm using my forum meta of him really

3:17 a.m.

i don't know how he plays here

3:17 a.m.

but i would expect things to somewhat translate over

Just promise me you'll lynch him if I flip and he's still alive f5/f3

he did say he feels like he's a stronger wolf here than forum

Code

Just promise me you'll lynch him if I flip and he's still alive f5/f3

that would mean i'd have to be alive for that lmao

Obviously

but sure, i'll consider it

3:18 a.m.

btw, announcing this because i haven't talke about it i think

Whatever you think of everyone else, Shig is almost entirely confirmed mafia at this point in my eyes

but cait has dropped to largely null fo rme

3:18 a.m.

maybe like, above null at best

3:18 a.m.

but inactivity will make people drop naturally

Code

Whatever you think of everyone else, Shig is almost entirely confirmed mafia at this point in my eyes

^

mhm

3:19 a.m.

i have two possible pairings in my head

3:19 a.m.

kaz/nocti can be w/w, something in the way that the two of them have spoken about each other (largely nocti) makes it feel like one of them is possibly wolf, maybe even two

3:20 a.m.

shig/luka, sure, this is the weaker one though in my head because i think luka's been towny

It doesn't have to be with luka

3:20 a.m.

Shig is scum independent of luka

i can see the pairing as w/w, but i think it's unlikely

Code

Shig is scum independent of luka

mhm, i'm assuming you just think that luka has equity with being w!Shig's partner

3:21 a.m.

but you have your own reasons to scum Shig independently

He could easily be with Nocti, Frosted, Cait, even you tbh

3:21 a.m.

When i scum two people it isn't always because they're partners

essentially shig's scum equity isn't determined by other players, but other players' scum equity can raise if he's scum

Code

When i scum two people it isn't always because they're partners

oh yea, that's fine

3:21 a.m.

i prefer that honestly lmao

I scum cased Luka as a partner but I scum cased Shig on his own

i don't like solving for teams without a read flip

3:21 a.m.

red

Shig has a lot of possible partners here

bleh, not being able to edit typos is sad lmao

Like a lot

he isn't unpaired from a lot of people

3:22 a.m.

only person i can really say he's unpaired with is you probably

He's probably only unpaired from Kaz and Gup

3:22 a.m.

Gyp*

i'd have to go through his iso to check

And me ig

i mean, no offense but i don't think you'd hellbus if you were scum lmao

3:23 a.m.

especially on d1 in a setup with a vig

Well I gotta go do stuff but ping me if you iso him and let me know what you think, because I'm 90% certain it's him

that's like, asking for death

TheSilverScepter

i mean, no offense but i don't think you'd hellbus if you were scum lmao

Depends on the circumstances

yea, i'm talking about the context of this setup specifically

Meh

Code

Well I gotta go do stuff but ping me if you iso him and let me know what you think, because I'm 90% certain it's him

Either way this

i'll iso him now and then ping you with whatever thoughts

3:23 a.m.

mhm

Ty

yea shig is probably unpaired with gypyx off of his early logs lmao

Dragon

Disagree, caitlin is the most obvtown but Luka is like mediumly town

mmm, i'm going to lightly say that if shig is wolf, then cait is town

3:26 a.m.

i'm getting more tmi vibes from that log than calling a partner obvtown

Dragon

Why would I be comfortbale as the top wagon???

i forgot this whole this happened

3:26 a.m.

yea i remember why i didn't like him earlier before i thought he softed vig

Dragon

Okay so I can self clear by confirming who the vig is on day 2. If I can say the vig's name on the first post I make on day 2 and the vig hasn't died then I am clear since I knew who the vig was and didn't kill them.

@Code Do you think this is something that can be faked by a wolf?

3:28 a.m.

i largely took that post as NAI at the time i first read it

3:28 a.m.

but also like, it feels like a stupid thing for a wolf to say lmao

3:30 a.m.

@Code His ISO has moments that I think read tonally good and has posts that I think are hard to fake as mafia, but it doesn't outweigh a lot of the stuff I dislike about him. One of the main things was his reaction to being top wagon, I forgot that happened and seeing it in his ISO again reminded me of how off that reaction felt.

TheSilverScepter

@Code Do you think this is something that can be faked by a wolf?

Yes because it proves nothing. How can you know who the vig is, he would purely be guessing and he knows it.

He'd only know who the vig is, if he's the vig himself and that's it

3:34 a.m.

So dropping that was just dumb

TheSilverScepter

@Code His ISO has moments that I think read tonally good and has posts that I think are hard to fake as mafia, but it doesn't outweigh a lot of the stuff I dislike about him. One of the main things was his reaction to being top wagon, I forgot that happened and seeing it in his ISO again reminded me of how off that reaction felt.

The problem is almost all of his content is either HARD tunnel (and that's coming from me), too consistent and no real progression, and his reactions to being voted have been terrible right from the get go

3:34 a.m.

Even when he had one vote

the thing is his early iso was him town reading gyp

Especially since he didn't want to deny nor claim vig yet

i saw what you mean by his push on kaz and/or gypyx

He hasn't towned gyp

yes?

Link it

it's not necessarily like an explicit town read

Dragon

@Xiaysa @Gypyx @Code Okay I am gonna assume all three of you are town for now. I'll revisot these reads later when I feel like reading stuff in depth. Wanna vote some random person with me?

i took this as like

3:35 a.m.

a snap/gut town read

3:35 a.m.

early so it doesn't mean like that much, but it still exists

3:36 a.m.

and from how shig was treating gypyx, it seemed like he was talking to her as if she was town

In this instance he had to town two of is because we were both voting him. He doesn't explain this and reverts back to scum casing / pushing Gyp in the rest of the game with no progression.

like an implicit undertone of reading her town

3:36 a.m.

which is also why i have them unpaired

Again they don't have to be paired

3:36 a.m.

Shig is mafia independently

i'm not scum reading gypyx

3:36 a.m.

i'm just also making unpairing reads as i go

He has zero progression and way too much of a concern as to what people think of him

it's something that i have relative confidence in being able to do decently lmao

3:37 a.m.

gypyx/shig not w/w

I would put my entire credibility on shig mafia

mmm

3:37 a.m.

i'll place my vote there for now then

3:37 a.m.

my votes today are locked in nocti/shig/kaz

3:38 a.m.

well looks like i'm voting with kaz

3:38 a.m.

meh

3:38 a.m.

kinda makes me a lil uneasy, but i think there's a decent chance shig/kaz aren't w/w so it's not too bad

TheSilverScepter

and from how shig was treating gypyx, it seemed like he was talking to her as if she was town

I scumread Gypyx but then I remembered there is a secret reason I am not allowed to vote her day 1 which may or may not be revealed later.

3:44 a.m.

Code what progression do you expect me to have regarding you?

3:44 a.m.

You are playing exactly the same way I would expect you to play as town. How can I have a progression on that

3:46 a.m.

Like if you did something unexpected or had an analyzable thought process I may have had a progression. But you just call random people mafia like you did last game. I cannot analyze this. I can only say "heh seems code is playing like last game so I guess they are probably town but maybe not"

3:46 a.m.

Anyhow

3:47 a.m.

Does Kaz even have a progression, either?

3:49 a.m.

Also if I am a survivalistic mafia why do I 1. Continue doing the things I get scumread for (voting "random" people) 2. Continuously avoid voting the counterwagons to me (which could actually gain traction) and instead vote a bunch of people with no votes on them 3. Start pushing Gypyx and then immediately back down without a reason and don't start another push on anyone else? None of this fits the narrative that I am a mafia who is worried about surviving and just looking to vote anyone but myself

3:50 a.m.

(this last post is not specifically at Code, it's also at silver and Kaz)

3:50 a.m.

@Gypyx the bot is broken for me, who did you vote?

3:51 a.m.

Oh you voted Kaz

my scum read on you isn't for the reasons you've stated

3:51 a.m.

my biggest thing was largely your reaction to being wagoned

TheSilverScepter

my scum read on you isn't for the reasons you've stated

I didn't say it was

yea but you're using those points as a way to defend yourself

But you claim my reaction to being wagoned is that of someone worried about survival

when it's somewhat also directed to me

And I say I disgree

it's not about survival necessarily

3:52 a.m.

it's more so like, burden almost

Wdym by burden

it seemed like you getting wagoned put this huge weight on you

3:53 a.m.

and started impeding the way you start presenting reads or just overall comfort

3:53 a.m.

sure there's discomfort at being top wagon

3:53 a.m.

but your reaction felt somewhat overblown from what i expect a town to have really

3:53 a.m.

might just be a playstyle thing cause being top wagon generally isn't a concern for me when i'm town

3:53 a.m.

i look into the wagon and then see how people are reading me

Welp

i use it as an opportunity rather than let it get to me too much

I disagree because different town players react differently

i might just be projecting my playstyle onto you

Personally when I am the top wagon I have two ways to react

mhm

If I have a strong scumread I push them

3:54 a.m.

If I don't have a strong scumread (like now) then I start freaking out

3:54 a.m.

Or not freaking out but acting as you describe

3:55 a.m.

It's overblown bevause I am totally lost as to who is the mafia pushing me, if any

3:55 a.m.

Because*

3:57 a.m.

Anyway my point is that you thought my reaction was overblown. If I were mafia I would immediately change tactic once you pointed it out, but I didn't because that wasn't a tactic, it was my honest reaction.

if you're town, the best thing to help me find you is likely by seeing you just solve

3:58 a.m.

and try to dig into the game a bit more

3:58 a.m.

i understand feeling lost, but your wagon can be a starting point

3:58 a.m.

it doesn't have to be like heavy analysis or anything

3:58 a.m.

but anything to see your thought process about the game here would be useful

I think the scummiest people on my wagon is Kaz. I think Code honestly believes what they are saying (even though it's shit). I guess I could be wrong on xia and she could be actual scum, I thought her vote on me was off, but I buy it that she wanted to defend Kaz so voted me. It's a rather simplistic thought process but I can see newer mafia players play this way as town. Actually I guess xia could still be scum, I am gonna check that after this post. I do think you believe what you are saying and I think that makes you most likely town. I think Gypyx voting Kaz after I started posting today, but not making a post, might indicate a town aoproach.

4:05 a.m.

Sorry I didn't explain why Kaz lol

4:05 a.m.

Kaz and xia both seem to have voted me for no reason when it seemed my wagon was an easy one to join

4:05 a.m.

So one of them is likely to be maf

4:06 a.m.

Not both I think

mhmm

I'll look at both their ISOs later, I don't have a lot of time rn

you're fine

I was rather just more sure that kaz is town, so when it was between you and kaz I voted for you angelpray

Tyt, do it when you got time to do so

just whatever you can give is fine

4:07 a.m.

it's also 1 am for me

4:07 a.m.

so time to get some fucking zzzs

Tho ofc I realized it was silly to do it that way, so I decided I'll just abstain from voting for now until I'm more certain about who I think could be scum

Good night

Gngn!

@Dragon haven't read anyrhing but I just wanna know WHY you think it's shit bc you haven't really explained

TheSilverScepter

a snap/gut town read

The man had not said anything prior. For him to pop up after being top wagon and just start towning 3 people with no real reason and start pushing everyone else is sus

uhm (Kazuma)

The man had not said anything prior. For him to pop up after being top wagon and just start towning 3 people with no real reason and start pushing everyone else is sus

2 of whom were voting him

Dragon

Does Kaz even have a progression, either?

I dont mind going down if you follow me tomorrow

Dragon

Also if I am a survivalistic mafia why do I 1. Continue doing the things I get scumread for (voting "random" people) 2. Continuously avoid voting the counterwagons to me (which could actually gain traction) and instead vote a bunch of people with no votes on them 3. Start pushing Gypyx and then immediately back down without a reason and don't start another push on anyone else? None of this fits the narrative that I am a mafia who is worried about surviving and just looking to vote anyone but myself

“Continuously avoid voting counter wagons…” brother you hopped on to my wagon the second luka flipped and hung on to him for bare life. Then when that fell apart started pushing randomly

Kaz is so beyond hard town I am never voting him

4:21 a.m.

Ly kaz

Dragon

Kaz and xia both seem to have voted me for no reason when it seemed my wagon was an easy one to join

Again, happy to go down as long as you join me

Code

Ly kaz

Ly too

4:25 a.m.

@Gypyx why me?

I would try to convince Gyp it isn't you but she hates me

4:26 a.m.

@frosted ✧ kaz is town, can you vote shig?

uhm (Kazuma)

@Gypyx why me?

why not?

I just wanna know your reasoning

not really in the mood to make something elaborated sorry

I did. Your read of me is based on the fact that I am playing differently from last game, but you only have a sample size of one and no way to know whether that change is alignment indicative. The change in my behavior is easily explained by various factors, such as the fact that last game I started as a near universal townread and here I am not, that I play better as a replacement because I dislike early day 1 play, that I have had less time to sit and read through the game, etc. Additionally, if you play a few more games with me you'll come to realize that last game, not this one, is the exception to how I normally play as town. I have a fervent dislike for day 1 and do a lot better in games I replace into later.

Code

@Dragon haven't read anyrhing but I just wanna know WHY you think it's shit bc you haven't really explained

This was a response to the above

Gypyx

not really in the mood to make something elaborated sorry

You haven’t been in the mood all game I assume

Additionally I think it's shit because you're calling me out for not having a progression even though there is simply not enough content and I have simply not read enough to have a progression. You want a progression, wait a night phase where I can read through the game with no pressure and you'll get a progression.

4:44 a.m.

Or maybe not cause I don't even know if reading the game will make me think anything different than "eh Code is playing similar to last game they are probably just town"

4:45 a.m.

And I just love how people ignore my progression on xia, too

4:45 a.m.

@Luka do you still think xia is maf?

uhm (Kazuma)

You haven’t been in the mood all game I assume

yeah, sure

Dragon

And I just love how people ignore my progression on xia, too

Link it

5:11 a.m.

Also honest to god I swear kaz is not maf

Fine

5:14 a.m.

Let's vote Nocti then

5:14 a.m.

Or frosted

5:14 a.m.

Or some other lurker

Code

Link it

One second

I would really only consider Gyp other than you atm

5:15 a.m.

And that is partly bias

5:15 a.m.

Not to say I town any of the lurkers besides frosted

uhm (Kazuma)

Then why vote xia?

This is where I explained my progression on xia

Code

And that is partly bias

Mostly*

Dragon

Mostly*

No, partly

No, mostly

5:18 a.m.

Okay okay

5:18 a.m.

I'll stop

Gyp's attitude rubs me the wrong way but she also has genuine issues that make me think she might be mafia

5:18 a.m.

So it isn't mostly bias

Oh I see

5:19 a.m.

Oh darn it now I have to say it don't I

Yes

Okay so I really scumread's Gypyx overall play but I kinda think she's the vig

5:20 a.m.

Which is why I voted her and then unvoted

Why do you think that

Because of her reaction to the soft claim yestersay

5:20 a.m.

Yesterday

Dragon

This is where I explained my progression on xia

I mean I'm gonna have to go reread any time you mention xia, but this doesn't feel like progression to me because it doesn't feel like it was a genuine sus in the first place

5:21 a.m.

It looks like omgus

Welp if you want I can go into more detail on it

Dragon

Welp if you want I can go into more detail on it

Sure go ahead

Since when is omgus not a genuine sus?

Dragon

Because of her reaction to the soft claim yestersay

Will take a look later

Okay basically

5:22 a.m.

Xia said early that I am her only townreae

5:22 a.m.

I didn't post anything since that point

Dragon

Since when is omgus not a genuine sus?

My view of omgus is "you annoyed me with your shit read so I'm going to vote you out of spite"

And I come back to see her voting me

5:22 a.m.

To me this looked and still looks to a degree like opprtunistic scum thinking that I am a nice wagon to hop onto

5:23 a.m.

If she really TR'd me I'd expect to not vote me without even letters me defend myself

5:23 a.m.

however she said she was TRing Kaz and voted me as a way to defend him

5:23 a.m.

I van see this as a town thought and when she explained this it satisfied ne

However on rethinking, I am lefy wondering why she is so confident on Kaz town

5:24 a.m.

Oh hi xia

5:24 a.m.

Why were you so confident on Kaz town?

Dragon

However on rethinking, I am lefy wondering why she is so confident on Kaz town

I am also confident on Kaz town

Code

I am also confident on Kaz town

That doesn't matter, I want to know her thoughts not yours

5:24 a.m.

You find scum by finding the people whose thoughts and votes don't add up

5:24 a.m.

Not by finding who agrees with who

@Dragon Why did you town Gyp and Xia straight out of the gate?

Code

@Dragon Why did you town Gyp and Xia straight out of the gate?

Convenience. Neither was a really strong read but I prefer to be wrong early and then change my mind than to have no read at all.

i mean, kaz was my mason partner last time, and the game before that, kaz was scum so i've sort of already seen kaz as both by now and i feel kaz in this game feels more on the towny side

Okay

and i know kaz did say he'd do better this game after acting too sus last time

What made you townread me though initially?

Xiaysa

and i know kaz did say he'd do better this game after acting too sus last time

True, I remember that

hmm might've been partly bias ngl i wanted to believe you're town and still do want to think so

5:27 a.m.

but it's so hard for me to be sure of who i find sus this game aaa

Yeah I get that

5:27 a.m.

Okay

hence why i decided that for now i'll abstain until i'm more sure who i want to vote

If a gun was to your head and you were told to votw the person you have the least strongest feelings that they are town, who would you vote?

hmm out of everyone in this game?

Xiaysa

but it's so hard for me to be sure of who i find sus this game aaa

I agree, too

Xiaysa

hmm out of everyone in this game?

Yes

possibly nocti as of now, i think

Okay

hi guys!

I think xia's thought process works out

5:29 a.m.

Hi frosted!

what’s new

Nothing much

but that's more because i haven't noticed anything that'll show them as town

I am bored

they've popped in now and then, but haven't really provided much reads or so yet

5:30 a.m.

hello frosted!

5:30 a.m.

i'm sitting on a ferry atm

5:30 a.m.

travelling back to where i live for uni, so gotta get to the airport

frosted if you were scum do you think you'd put in more or less effort?

5:30 a.m.

Or the same

5:31 a.m.

By "scum" I mean nafia, btw

5:31 a.m.

Mafia*

honestly, I’m not sure! probably more

I’m mainly just overviewing everything atm to try and figure things out

5:31 a.m.

and that’s cool xia!!

Xiaysa

travelling back to where i live for uni, so gotta get to the airport

Bon voyage

it is easier as a new player to be more active when they have a partner after all

frosted ✧

honestly, I’m not sure! probably more

I’m mainly just overviewing everything atm to try and figure things out

Do you have any thoughts on what might make a player look like mafia and what might make them look like town?

but i know nocti isn't very new to mafia games either, they're a returning player

Or like who is suspicious and/or not suspicious?

but i do also find cait a bit sus, with how they suddenly got so quiet

Shit I jeep forgetting cait exists

but i'll wait and see if we'll see more of them soon

Keep*

yeah i forgot cait for a sec too, just remembered they're here

I'd be down to vote cait

Dragon

Do you have any thoughts on what might make a player look like mafia and what might make them look like town?

truthfully nothing specific, I have no tactics or strategy here (especially since all mafia games I have played in the past have been in person, rather via messages over a course of a few days) I’m just trying to work things out but uhh yeah

frosted ✧

truthfully nothing specific, I have no tactics or strategy here (especially since all mafia games I have played in the past have been in person, rather via messages over a course of a few days) I’m just trying to work things out but uhh yeah

That's fair

But as of right now, I do believe that xia is town! just from the way she speaks but ya

Aww, and im pretty sure you're town as well

5:36 a.m.

My advice to you is this: As town you are basically trying to find out who is the mafia (scumhunting) and who is town (townhunting). As mafia you already know, so you can either pretend to do it, or I guess you can do nothing. So players who aren't doing nothing, and players who look like they pretend to be interested in who the mafia is (but aren't really interested) would be your immediate suspects

5:37 a.m.

Though of course sometimes the mafia players are better, and sometimes the town players are worse, so these can't be your only suspects.

5:37 a.m.

Is this helpful?

Some players do act a bit sus even as town as well so it's not a bad idea to always have a "what if" kinda thinking even if you're sure they're town

5:38 a.m.

Or scum

yes thank you! if people are doing too much/too little it can arise suspicion

yes that’s true also xia, thanks guys

Dragon

This is where I explained my progression on xia

That is NOT progression

uhm (Kazuma)

That is NOT progression

Sure pal

frosted ✧

yes thank you! if people are doing too much/too little it can arise suspicion

yes that’s true also xia, thanks guys

Npnp

frosted ✧

yes thank you! if people are doing too much/too little it can arise suspicion

yes that’s true also xia, thanks guys

Okay cool

5:40 a.m.

Good luck hunting!

i’ll do my best

@uhm (Kazuma) who is my partner? Luka?

Xiaysa

but i do also find cait a bit sus, with how they suddenly got so quiet

Same, for similar reasons I thought luka was sus.

Dragon

@uhm (Kazuma) who is my partner? Luka?

i Thought so. Now I’m not sure

5:45 a.m.

I can pair you with anyone other than me code and xia

5:45 a.m.

Silver too ig

5:45 a.m.

We will figure out your partner tommorow tho dw

I am not worried cause I don't have one

Dragon is pretty strongly getting out of what's a realistic scumrange imo

uhm (Kazuma)

That is NOT progression

Agree

Gypyx

Dragon is pretty strongly getting out of what's a realistic scumrange imo

Elaborate?

6:01 a.m.

What's cait's discord handle guys

6:01 a.m.

So I can iso her

phone0ix I believe

6:02 a.m.

If that's what you mean

Ty

Code

Elaborate?

this isn't a very elaborate thought so no

Gypyx

this isn't a very elaborate thought so no

I am asking you why you think it is out of his scum range

6:12 a.m.

And who your mafia choice would be also

This really can't be explained, or like, if you're not seeing it there i probably can't make you see it otherwise for now i'd say the mafia lies in {Kaz / You / Cait / Nocti / Maybe scepter?}

Gypyx

This really can't be explained, or like, if you're not seeing it there i probably can't make you see it otherwise for now i'd say the mafia lies in {Kaz / You / Cait / Nocti / Maybe scepter?}

My point is that we've never seen him scum, we don't know what his range is. And based on his tonality I wouldn't put it past him to be a strong wolf. So I wanted to know why you said that. I guess let me phrase it this way, why do you think he's town

Gypyx

This really can't be explained, or like, if you're not seeing it there i probably can't make you see it otherwise for now i'd say the mafia lies in {Kaz / You / Cait / Nocti / Maybe scepter?}

I would remove Kaz from this list but it's otherwise fine.

Gypyx is from my home site and should at least have a vague idea of my capabilities. I also think you should be able to have some idea of my scum game based on my town game.

6:40 a.m.

Regardless, you haven't really responded to my explanation of why your read on me is shit and yet you are expecting other people to explain why they townread me. What gives?

6:41 a.m.

I think the burden of proof currently lies on you not on my defenders

6:42 a.m.

Anyhow

6:43 a.m.

Code, I would like to see you give thoughts on anyone not named Dragon, Luka, Gypyx or Kaz, please

6:43 a.m.

Or like

6:44 a.m.

Explain why you are so confident on Kaz town other than "trust me bro"

6:49 a.m.

Basically the main people I'd like to vote are Nocti and Kaz. I am probably clearing a scum but I realize I will be able to solve better on day 2 onwards after some flips so I am not very worried about it, and these two are peeps I feel have a decent chance to flip scum and a low chance of me reading them confidently either way. I am definitely townreading more people than I shoule be.

Dragon

I think the burden of proof currently lies on you not on my defenders

My opinopnbhaant changed

Dragon

Regardless, you haven't really responded to my explanation of why your read on me is shit and yet you are expecting other people to explain why they townread me. What gives?

I answered the points I wanted to answer.

Dragon

Code, I would like to see you give thoughts on anyone not named Dragon, Luka, Gypyx or Kaz, please

Name one then

Okay

6:50 a.m.

Silver

6:50 a.m.

And Nocti

Nocti is borderline irrelevant, this game basically has 7 players and she isn't one of them

6:51 a.m.

And silver seems townsolvey enough that it feels like too high effort for a new mafia in a new setting

Code

Nocti is borderline irrelevant, this game basically has 7 players and she isn't one of them

But what if she maf

Code

And silver seems townsolvey enough that it feels like too high effort for a new mafia in a new setting

Sure

6:52 a.m.

If we gon play it like a 7 player game we should execute and vig the one who aren't playing IMO

6:53 a.m.

I just townread all the active players except Kaz

Dragon

But what if she maf

My point is that she's impossible to have a good read on because she just isn't here

I know

I also don't like anyone who towned cait so early

Let's make you a deal

And I'm still skeptical of Luka

6:54 a.m.

If I was vig he or you dies tn

6:54 a.m.

Probably you

6:54 a.m.

Maybe Gyp actually idk

6:54 a.m.

Eh whatever.

We killz Nocti and viggiz Cait or frosted and then day 2 if neither has flipped scum you killz me

Frosted is town.

I know

Vig kill cannot be guaranteed

Dragon

We killz Nocti and viggiz Cait or frosted and then day 2 if neither has flipped scum you killz me

Why would you vig frosted then

I prefer cait but there's a small chance cait is vig

6:55 a.m.

In which case cait would vig frosted

And I don't want nocti voted today I'd rather nocti replace frosted in that vig possibility

Okay do you sus cait?

I haven't iso'd her yet

6:57 a.m.

But I think if you want to exe the inactive then vig is a better use than lynch

6:58 a.m.

Lynch sus people vig the inactive

6:58 a.m.

Which is why I don't want nocti

Code do you know what happens when I flip town? Especially if your sus of Luka is correct? Luka turns against you and you get flipped next. If I thought you were scum I wouldn't mind, but as I think you are town, I do in fact mind and therefore don't want to go down that timeline.

Code

Lynch sus people vig the inactive

Except in this game we only get 2 vigs before last day

Happy to kill Luka today if you can help get the votes

And there are 3 inactives

Dragon

Except in this game we only get 2 vigs before last day

Same logic is true for lynching

6:59 a.m.

I don't want to use lynch on inactive rn

6:59 a.m.

Imagine also if one of the inactive was vig

Okay but why are you sure the inactives aren't maf? Because I am somewhat confident that most of the actives are town.

I never said thst

7:00 a.m.

You said you want to kill inactive

Code

Imagine also if one of the inactive was vig

You could literally say that for anyone?

I just said to do it by vig

Dragon

You could literally say that for anyone?

Yeah but you want the inactive lynched

If they are vig they won't self vig

If you leave it to vig to kill them you don't risk that chance

Code

Yeah but you want the inactive lynched

Yes if they claim vig I will change course

No shit

I really don't get how that is a consideration for you

7:01 a.m.

Imagine if one of me and luka is a vig

7:02 a.m.

You want to lynch us

7:02 a.m.

Isn't it better to have us vigged

7:02 a.m.

To avoid that risk

You are misrepresenting my argument

7:02 a.m.

You want all the inactive to die

No I am just not understanding it

But if one of the inactive is maf which is like 30% chance

7:02 a.m.

It's better use to let vig deal with them

if either of you are vig and you're at risk of being lynched close to the eod, then you can just claim

And the inactives can't?

*vig, not maf

Code

But if one of the inactive is maf which is like 30% chance

It's more than 30% It's 3/10 + 7/10*3/9

Dragon

And the inactives can't?

they can as well, yes

Don't be pedantic

7:03 a.m.

My point stands

I don't get your point

7:05 a.m.

I really don't

Whatever

7:05 a.m.

If you don't get it by now you're unlikely to get it at all

What I am saying is

Let's just say I don't want nocti lynched today and leave it at that

If we kill all three inactives right now (which is mechanically impossible btw, but let's pretend we do) then we have over 50% chance to hit mafia by default. We have 30% chance to hit vig by default. As I already townread and PR read some of the actives, the chance to hit vig is lower and the chance to hit maf is higher. I don't think we hit both maf but I think we hit one, get into a situation with 5 players alive one of which is maf, and solve.

I will not vote nocti today

Good for you

You can stop arguing for it now

You are not voting anyone exceot town today, it seems

I told you who I'm willing to vote

You said me or Gypyx iirc

I have tried to explain to the best of my ability but you either can't or won't understand it so us having this discussion isn't worth it

Dragon

You said me or Gypyx iirc

Or luka

Or Luka

7:11 a.m.

Okay

7:12 a.m.

Luka how do you feel about getting voted out for the greater good?

7:12 a.m.

@Luka

You know he's just gonna complain about it right

No

7:12 a.m.

I have seen him self vote as town

And ping me like 5 times trying to invalidate my logic

When the alternative was another town

I'm not getting into this with you or him bc I've had enough of arguing w him

That's fine

7:13 a.m.

I dislike arguments

Yes

I was asking him because I want to know if he's cool with being voted out

7:14 a.m.

If he is then he is probably town and the optimal play is probably to vote him anyway to get you to untunnel

How would that get me to untunnel when my tunnel is on you

Oh dw I'll get vigged tn my friendo

Lol

I am not saying it's an optimum strategy but it's better than mislynching me and then mislynching you or Luka tomorrow

You are hella convinced luka is town

7:17 a.m.

Why do you town gyp

I am

Code

Why do you town gyp

You wot

7:17 a.m.

I explained it already

7:19 a.m.

If you and Luka aren't both town I'll eat my hat

7:19 a.m.

Gypyx I am not convinced is town

7:19 a.m.

I just feel like she has highest vig equity

7:19 a.m.

(reasons to be the vig)

What reasons

Didn't you say you were gonna read them?

7:20 a.m.

Her reaction to my soft claim

7:21 a.m.

And I do think it's slightly more likely for town rather than maf to vote the counterwagon without explanation after reading a bunch of things I've written

You shouldn't discuss who is Vig

7:21 a.m.

Mafia wants to kill them

7:21 a.m.

So its not a good idea to give them clues to the Vigilante's identity

Dragon

Didn't you say you were gonna read them?

You listed a reason there

7:22 a.m.

You said she has the MOST reasons

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224983201165082636 As much as I'd like to be spewed town upon a wolf flip D1, Dragon is sadly gonna flip town Probably

Dragon

Oh dw I'll get vigged tn my friendo

It seems more likely you will be D1'd /shrug

Code

You said she has the MOST reasons

Well I really am not going to go into vig hunting my mate

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224983201165082636 As much as I'd like to be spewed town upon a wolf flip D1, Dragon is sadly gonna flip town Probably

That's correct

Dragon

If we kill all three inactives right now (which is mechanically impossible btw, but let's pretend we do) then we have over 50% chance to hit mafia by default. We have 30% chance to hit vig by default. As I already townread and PR read some of the actives, the chance to hit vig is lower and the chance to hit maf is higher. I don't think we hit both maf but I think we hit one, get into a situation with 5 players alive one of which is maf, and solve.

Isn't that the case for any group of 3 ppl tho lmao

Caitlin

It seems more likely you will be D1'd /shrug

But I don't wanna

Caitlin

Isn't that the case for any group of 3 ppl tho lmao

It is but I townread most other players

Why is Luka town

Dragon

Well I really am not going to go into vig hunting my mate

You've literally been doing that

7:26 a.m.

Your argument for her vig is no stronger than anyone else vig

Caitlin

Why is Luka town

Idk

(Reason I'm asking Luka above Xia is because I deem him the most likely to be miscleared since he afaik is the topposter)

Okay I'm back to townreading Cait tbh

Caitlin

Why is Luka town

Mainly the extremely out there approach that draws a lot of attention without a lot of benefit, and I think there was a vote switch that I don't understand why he'd make as wolf since he could have easily just gotten Kaz

7:29 a.m.

Though I do admit that since Majority is turned off then I guess it doesn't matter

7:29 a.m.

Maybe he's just playing with food

Dragon

I just townread all the active players except Kaz

Why me? Sorry if I’ve asked before

I just don't townread you

Dragon

Though I do admit that since Majority is turned off then I guess it doesn't matter

Mhm

Have you done something I'm supposed to townread

7:30 a.m.

Cait if you are wolf I am gonna be sad cause your pocketing os really good

7:30 a.m.

Is*

Moving off of a big maj wagon isn't rlly uncommon for wolves at all

Do you suspect Luka though?

Based on what I read earlier he's slightly above null for me

Who do you suspect atm?

But I've only read the msges from the past 14h aside of that

7:30 a.m.

And Luka didn't post there

True

Dragon

Who do you suspect atm?

Haven't seen a reason to move away from Xia yet

Hmm

7:31 a.m.

Okay

7:31 a.m.

You know what

7:31 a.m.

I am just gonna sheep Cait

I thought you townread her?

I do but I townread everyone

7:32 a.m.

I dislike reading people before there are any flips

Caitlin

Moving off of a big maj wagon isn't rlly uncommon for wolves at all

Especially in the weird event those two are partners

So I decided to pick you as the voice of reason and hope you are right

Ykw I am less inclined to wagon shig today but I cba to effort anyone else right at this moment

What is cba?

I don't however like how we're all suddenly Cait lovers again though

7:33 a.m.

Like just immediately

Code

Especially in the weird event those two are partners

~~Funnily enough I'd find it more likely W!Luka moved off from a townie~~

Dragon

What is cba?

Can't be assed

Oh

Code

I don't however like how we're all suddenly Cait lovers again though

Its my overwhelming cuteness

Code

I don't however like how we're all suddenly Cait lovers again though

Her posting is really good thooo

Caitlin

~~Funnily enough I'd find it more likely W!Luka moved off from a townie~~

Thoughts on w!luka?

Caitlin

Its my overwhelming cuteness

Maybe

Caitlin

Its my overwhelming cuteness

Trueeee

Dragon

Her posting is really good thooo

She sent like 2 messages and you flipped agajn

They were good messages

7:34 a.m.

Amd cute

Code

Thoughts on w!luka?

Slightly above null But I think W!Luka prob not with Kazuma or whoever was the one on 2 votes

Dragon

They were good messages

How

Cuz like

7:34 a.m.

Lets say you're a wolf and your partner seems doomed

They had the tone of someone who is more interested in shaking up the game and exposing the baddies than someone interested in looking like town

If you move off that early you lose the distancing you wanted in the first place when you voted them

7:35 a.m.

So I think if Luka&Kazuma were SvS, Luka would stay till more votes are off, and only then, move off

I agree with Cait

Dragon

I agree with Cait

We know

Pffft

@Caitlin who's xia's partner then

Dragon

They had the tone of someone who is more interested in shaking up the game and exposing the baddies than someone interested in looking like town

Thats an accurate description of both my town and mafia game (or well my mafia game replicating my town game :P)

Code

@Caitlin who's xia's partner then

The one I said was wolf with you

7:36 a.m.

I forgot who that was

7:36 a.m.

Was that Kazuma

Caitlin

The one I said was wolf with you

Didn't even know you wolfed me tbh

Caitlin

Thats an accurate description of both my town and mafia game (or well my mafia game replicating my town game :P)

Now I am scared

Kaz is for sure town

Dragon

If he is then he is probably town and the optimal play is probably to vote him anyway to get you to untunnel

Then why weren’t you okay with getting voted out

Code

Kaz is for sure town

WHY

Code

Didn't even know you wolfed me tbh

I did early early D1

7:37 a.m.

But changed mind quickly

uhm (Kazuma)

Then why weren’t you okay with getting voted out

Huh? I explained why

Fairly sure you were 2nd to last on my readslist

Tbf I just didn't read any of your posts bc I was too busy arguing

If I get voted out in a world where Code is town, code is voted out tomorrow and we're at a f5

Code

Tbf I just didn't read any of your posts bc I was too busy arguing

Smh

7:38 a.m.

Ofc Vigi's may hero shoot but

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1224983201165082636 As much as I'd like to be spewed town upon a wolf flip D1, Dragon is sadly gonna flip town Probably

Then who do you want to lynch?

# In general, upon a town flip, it's wise to shoot the counterwagon

Caitlin

# In general, upon a town flip, it's wise to shoot the counterwagon

Why

Kazuma instead of arguing with everything I say why don't you talk about your own stances for a bit

Code

Why

More info + ppl did sus that person for a reason clearly

Caitlin

More info + ppl did sus that person for a reason clearly

More info how

uhm (Kazuma)

Then who do you want to lynch?

Probably like Xia

Code

Why

It does flip scum a large percentage of the time

Code

More info how

Knowing whether it was TvT or TvS is very important

Moreso than a random shot

Dragon

I just don't townread you

Why is the question

If it was TvS, anyone that preferred the town vote over the mafia vote is very scummy

uhm (Kazuma)

Why is the question

Because you haven't done anything towny?

If it was TvT, anyone that didn't care or stayed away is very scummy

Since I rejoined the game all your posts have been arguing me in a way that doesn't expose your thought process hut only seeks to make me look bad

Dragon

Have you done something I'm supposed to townread

Im just not going bother with you atp

Arguin with me*

Caitlin

If it was TvS, anyone that preferred the town vote over the mafia vote is very scummy

Ty

uhm (Kazuma)

Im just not going bother with you atp

Okay then

Plus likely

7:40 a.m.

The ppl that voted the counterwagon will yknow just

7:40 a.m.

Push the counterwagon again

Caitlin

The ppl that voted the counterwagon will yknow just

Mentor me next game

So it also moves the game forward lol

Code

Mentor me next game

I dont rlly mentir

7:41 a.m.

Mentor

Code

Ykw I am less inclined to wagon shig today but I cba to effort anyone else right at this moment

Dont fold

Cait what do you think of Kazuma

Can someone who isn't me fully iso Kaz because I cba to explain why he's town and I want someone who isn't me or Shig to look

uhm (Kazuma)

Dont fold

Possibly a wolf although I mildly tl this post xD

Code

Can someone who isn't me fully iso Kaz because I cba to explain why he's town and I want someone who isn't me or Shig to look

Cant iso on mobile sadly

Dragon

If I get voted out in a world where Code is town, code is voted out tomorrow and we're at a f5

Code doesn’t die tommorow in any world

Yeah they do

Dragon

Kazuma instead of arguing with everything I say why don't you talk about your own stances for a bit

Im arguing with you because of my stance

My stance that I am mafia

7:45 a.m.

Not your stances about other players or about my thoughts

7:45 a.m.

Your stabce*

7:45 a.m.

Bleh

7:45 a.m.

You know what I meant

Caitlin

Probably like Xia

Eeehhh no Anyone else?

Dragon

Because you haven't done anything towny?

Have you?

Dragon

Not your stances about other players or about my thoughts

Why would I focus on others when Im convinced it’s you?

@Code @uhm (Kazuma) @TheSilverScepter Please tell me what kind of scum player repeatedly says the don't have scumreads when they are the top wagon and flip flops a lot and gets into stupid unproductive fights with the most stubborn person in the whole wide world (Code) instead of trying to get a counterwagon going and pushing on it.

uhm (Kazuma)

Why would I focus on others when Im convinced it’s you?

Because your arguing is unproductive

7:48 a.m.

You are trying to convince me I am mafia

7:49 a.m.

And you are also wrong on me being mafia

7:49 a.m.

So you should at least consider that possibility and look at others

Ehh whatever. Cba here

Unless you expect to be a mafia god who always gets mafia correctly on day 1

Dragon

@Code @uhm (Kazuma) @TheSilverScepter Please tell me what kind of scum player repeatedly says the don't have scumreads when they are the top wagon and flip flops a lot and gets into stupid unproductive fights with the most stubborn person in the whole wide world (Code) instead of trying to get a counterwagon going and pushing on it.

What is your argument here

uhm (Kazuma)

Ehh whatever. Cba here

That really is not helping me townread youand therein lies the answer to your question of why I don't townread you.

Code

What is your argument here

I give up

7:50 a.m.

I have no argument

7:50 a.m.

Lynch me

Dragon

I give up

No seriously, what is it

7:50 a.m.

I am genuinely asking

My argument is that my play makes no sense from a mafia perspective

Oh

7:51 a.m.

I mean I already said I'm less inclined to push you

7:51 a.m.

I just don't have a better one / support for the ones I want

And that if I were mafia I would have worked a lot more effectively to not be the top wagon

7:51 a.m.

Okay fair

7:51 a.m.

Do you wanna vote Luka?

I've been doubting you for the last 45 minutes

Dragon

Do you wanna vote Luka?

Maybe, I need a break for a bit tbh

Okay

Get my head straight

Have a break

7:52 a.m.

We've been at it for like an hour or two straight

@uhm (Kazuma) Who is Shig's partner if he's mafia

Bye

Dragon

We've been at it for like an hour or two straight

Haha code moment

Code

I just don't have a better one / support for the ones I want

I can back you on luka, otherwise I cant help

Code

@uhm (Kazuma) Who is Shig's partner if he's mafia

Literally anyone other than me you and xiu

7:56 a.m.

Not xiu

7:56 a.m.

Xia

Tbh I really think Gyp might be a more productive wagon than Luka rn.

8:04 a.m.

With all the vig talk there's a fair chance Gyp dies tonight if she isn't maf, meaning the kill won't give us info. By wagoning her we either pressure her to out (something that won't really change the kill anyway imo), lynch her with no confirmation and allow night kill to give info, or get a maf. Ordered from worst to best

8:04 a.m.

Her attitude feels like it might be overwhelmed maf to an extent tbh

8:05 a.m.

Or at least I am choosing to believe she isn't just this way usually

8:06 a.m.

And if she does out, then we move on to a different wagon, possibly either Luka or Xia/Nocti if we have to

8:08 a.m.

I may also consider pressuring Scepter, but not right now

Why are you just letting shig go

What mafia puts in that much effort consistently AND manages to keep up appearances without slipping for 2 hours straight?

8:12 a.m.

arguing with me at that

The good doesn’t erase the bad yk

I didn't say it does

But I’ll fold

his entry was still bad as was his obsession with being voted from the start

8:14 a.m.

but I don't see it as likely rn that he would be as consistent as he is with his arguments and personality

8:14 a.m.

without cracking

I dont see the consistency you’re talking about but it’s fine. Ill back you against gyp

he didn't break even though I kept arguing and arguing

8:16 a.m.

he didn't say anything contradictory

8:16 a.m.

he didn't seem overly pressured by me

Whoever the vig is has to shoot him tho. We cannot let him just waltz into day 2

that I'm okay with

8:17 a.m.

vig should shoot between these people luka shig gyp nocti

Code

he didn't seem overly pressured by me

But yesterday?

maaaaaybe xia but idk yet

8:17 a.m.

wanna iso her

uhm (Kazuma)

But yesterday?

what about it

He could not handle said pressure

8:18 a.m.

Cracked at being ye

8:18 a.m.

Ye

That was about the votes and I can hardly complain bc neither can I

tw

But again, I didn't say the rest erases that

8:18 a.m.

but in actual arguments and logic I don't have much to complain about

8:18 a.m.

he wouldn't be this solid on those idt

@Xiaysa switch to gyp

hmmm

8:22 a.m.

i mean sure, idm that Sip

Ty

would be nice if they'd actually at least try to explain their reads and such

I dont think they have any besides me being scum

i feel bad voting for anyone since i'm so unsure about who prolly is scum

They just feel really... defensive? Aggressive? I'm not sure

but it's part of the game

8:24 a.m.

yeah

It goes beyond "overwhelmed town" in my eyes

defensive without really explaining themselves

Like it feels like they're scared of something and unwilling to make mistakes

8:25 a.m.

And like I said before, it's better imo to lynch them / pressure the lynch than it is to let mafia kill them

true

8:25 a.m.

at least when we pressure them we'll see if they'll break under the pressure or not

8:26 a.m.

best case scenario, they turn out to actually be scum

8:26 a.m.

but i do hope gyp will at least try to explain, rather than just not caring

8:27 a.m.

why join a game if you won't even bother playing it

Xiaysa

why join a game if you won't even bother playing it

nocti moment?

yeep

8:27 a.m.

i mean, i'm aware i'm not really contributing too much myself but at least i try to do what i can

8:28 a.m.

and even if i don't have any exact reason i'm 100% sure on, i still try to explain it at least

you're the other wagon people want

yeah

8:30 a.m.

and i don't blame them at all like, it is sus for someone to appear self-conscious and all, even if it is just how i usually am

8:30 a.m.

etc etc

can confirm

and i haven't provided too many reads yet either and seem really unsure

8:30 a.m.

which ofc, i am

8:30 a.m.

it is hard to tell this game

8:30 a.m.

and i know i'm not alone with it

you probably only have the next few hours to really try and form something else the vig might be on you if the wagon isn;t

Xiaysa

it is hard to tell this game

honestly, yeah

yeah, and i'll be boarding a plane in like 15 mins so i really won't have too much time after getting home

8:32 a.m.

but doesn't mean i won't try to defend myself at least

8:32 a.m.

possibly becoming top wagon doesn't scare me, as mentioned before

8:33 a.m.

i don't have any reason to be afraid of being lynched, it's upto others if they want to believe me or not

8:34 a.m.

and it's fine if they want to lynch me, because in that case even when i do flip town, it'd still be a contribution to finding out who the scums are

8:34 a.m.

8:34 a.m.

i won't berate people just because they don't believe me

8:35 a.m.

that's my thoughts on it regardless

8:35 a.m.

but i'll see how things are once the plane has landed

ffs xia is so wholesome

8:39 a.m.

I can't vote after this

8:39 a.m.

If it is you, I'm fucked, but well played

I am town, dw Salute

I really don't think I'd do well at all as scum

8:49 a.m.

But for now, time to board this plane

8:49 a.m.

Cyaa

Code

Tbh I really think Gyp might be a more productive wagon than Luka rn.

all this sounds like Mafia afraid to nightkill someone they fear is VT and wanting to confirm i'm indeed the vig

9:07 a.m.

and look i'm really not in the mindset to care right now, i'll claim like 1 hour before EoD

This implies you have something to claim

9:14 a.m.

Which implies you’re vig

VT is a claim too

9:15 a.m.

I'm saying you let the scum guess which one it is

I mean unless someone is 2/2 here mafia should always go for who they think vig is

9:16 a.m.

Unless vig is dead wrong

9:16 a.m.

/ not a threat

9:17 a.m.

So letting them kill you means we don't get info from the night kill

9:17 a.m.

Letting vig kill you means there's a chance mafia stack it and same problem + wasted vig shot

Gypyx

I'm saying you let the scum guess which one it is

If you were vig who would shoot tonight?

uhm (Kazuma)

If you were vig who would shoot tonight?

stop fishing

Code

Letting vig kill you means there's a chance mafia stack it and same problem + wasted vig shot

Vig is one shot?

uhm (Kazuma)

Vig is one shot?

No but it means we don't get 2 out

Gypyx

stop fishing

I mean

9:19 a.m.

You gotta cooperate

Last time i checked the vig shot isn't collectively submitted

Gypyx

Last time i checked the vig shot isn't collectively submitted

Reading comprehension has left the chat

9:20 a.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) what do you think chances are one of the commonly towned people is mafia

Reading comprehension has left the chat

Code

@uhm (Kazuma) what do you think chances are one of the commonly towned people is mafia

You all town luka and I dont so..

9:21 a.m.

Ive been pondering the idea of xia being maf but I still doubt

uhm (Kazuma)

Whoever the vig is has to shoot him tho. We cannot let him just waltz into day 2

Oh you afraid I push you?

Dragon

Oh you afraid I push you?

Im not getting lynched

9:24 a.m.

You’ve been pushing me all day

uhm (Kazuma)

You all town luka and I dont so..

I mean my town on him is very skeptical

9:27 a.m.

I was referring to anyone in this group: Luka Silver Cait Frosted

9:27 a.m.

Primarily

9:27 a.m.

People who seem universally town

There could be one in frosted/luka. More so luka than frosted though. I have no strong opinion on cait

Omay maybe Kaz is just town

9:30 a.m.

Okay*

9:31 a.m.

Idk why scum is so obstinate

9:31 a.m.

Nah

9:31 a.m.

I dislike his votes

Code

If I ever flip I laugh at you so it's all good

I literally have u as town but ok MenheraLazy

Dragon

I dislike his votes

What have i done that you disagree with

Yeah but only because you wany to avoid me if I'm mafia

uhm (Kazuma)

What have i done that you disagree with

Vote wise

Gypyx

Dragon why the fuck are you pushing so hard to vote me

Where do you get this assumption?

Dragon

Idk why scum is so obstinate

What do you mean here

TheSilverScepter

has nocti done anything like, noteworthy?

No.

uhm (Kazuma)

What have i done that you disagree with

Vote gypyx vote me maybe vote xia

Dragon

Vote gypyx vote me maybe vote xia

Ive never said I’d vote xia what??

Gypyx

Dragon why the fuck are you pushing so hard to vote me

Wait what? I have literally been anti pushing you

TheSilverScepter

i also didn't follow through my promise on reading your paragraph/essay on luka

Possibly the worst way to spend 2 mimutes of your life sadcat

If you’re trying to say my votes are everywhere then you’re a hypocrite

uhm (Kazuma)

Ive never said I’d vote xia what??

Wait

uhm (Kazuma)

Ive been pondering the idea of xia being maf but I still doubt

This

Dragon

Vote gypyx vote me maybe vote xia

That was me

Okay

And i said I need to iso her

Then Kaz u good

I've since decided she's probably not mafia

I agree

Code

What do you mean here

@Dragon

Ahhhh why do I have so many townreads

TheSilverScepter

maybe like, above null at best

Yeah. Their content is towny but lack of it is in her wolf meta MenheraNodFast

Code

What do you mean here

I mean if Kaz were scum I don't understand why he would be so obstinate. And this not understanding is making me doubt my scumread of him ever so slightly.

9:37 a.m.

Okay I am going to do a reset

9:37 a.m.

I have 0 townreads now

9:37 a.m.

I have reset

Xiaysa

He'd only know who the vig is, if he's the vig himself and that's it

I know who the vig is MenheraNodFast

So thats false MenheraNodFast

Dragon

I mean if Kaz were scum I don't understand why he would be so obstinate. And this not understanding is making me doubt my scumread of him ever so slightly.

Question was more so what does obstinate mean haha

Now starting anew, who is the consensus townread please?

Dragon

Now starting anew, who is the consensus townread please?

Currently Silver, Frosted, Cait but less so

9:38 a.m.

Most people town Luka but it looks a bit shaky

9:38 a.m.

I think there COULD be a maf in that group

Dragon

@Luka do you still think xia is maf?

Theyve had 2 good responses now, but theyve done nearly nothing all game in terms of actual reads. Below null for the most part, not as strong as before

Luka

Where do you get this assumption?

the part where he asked people multiple times to vote me

Dragon

Or frosted

I veto

Code

Question was more so what does obstinate mean haha

Oh. I mean the way he refuses to change his opinion and continues to argue with the idea I could be town

Dragon

Oh. I mean the way he refuses to change his opinion and continues to argue with the idea I could be town

Thank you

9:40 a.m.

I feel like you said before consistency was more wolfy tho

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GL...

9:41 a.m.

Sec, need to go take a shower~~

Dragon

@Luka

Even suggesting this is horrible since you town me

Code

And ping me like 5 times trying to invalidate my logic

... What logic aside from "Wolfy" ConfusedPika

Inconsistency / Changing reads akin to progression isn't wolfy!

9:42 a.m.

dw, I made sure to turn off pings for you MenheraWink1

Dragon

I have seen him self vote as town

That was a duelist so special case, I normally don't self.

Dragon

Oh dw I'll get vigged tn my friendo

...

Caitlin

You shouldn't discuss who is Vig

Im shooting somebody to tonight MenheraCurious1

Code

I feel like you said before consistency was more wolfy tho

Did I? Well I think a lot of it depends on context. I could see his obstinance be either wolfy or towny.

9:47 a.m.

Is obstinance even a word?

Luka

...

Sorry Luka

9:48 a.m.

You leave, I lose confidence

Caitlin

# In general, upon a town flip, it's wise to shoot the counterwagon

A hero shot will be done tonight sadcat

Dragon

@Code @uhm (Kazuma) @TheSilverScepter Please tell me what kind of scum player repeatedly says the don't have scumreads when they are the top wagon and flip flops a lot and gets into stupid unproductive fights with the most stubborn person in the whole wide world (Code) instead of trying to get a counterwagon going and pushing on it.

True!

Dragon

Lynch me

Dragon

Do you wanna vote Luka?

9:53 a.m.

Xia / Cait probably has one w sadcat

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Might just be cait Salute

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

The most likely one is luka

Oh Gyp is vig gg... sadcat

Means my vig read was wrong Bunny_tears_cry

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True...

Gypyx

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Can you HC vig for me MenheraPlead

HC vig?

Gypyx

HC vig?

Hard Claim

10:14 a.m.

It helps resolve your slot which is probably useful.

i'm still hoping that maybe the wind blows another way and i can keep the ambiguity so maybe scum makes the wrong choice tonight i can do it a bit sooner than planned if you wish

Its kind of blatently obvious atp so I'd say just claim now LeafWink

Oh Gypyx is Vig?

10:20 a.m.

Well thought she was town anyway

10:21 a.m.

Luka who are you voting

10:21 a.m.

It only shows numbers for me

10:21 a.m.

I assume me.or Xia

10:21 a.m.

But which

Caitlin

Luka who are you voting

Some null person who hasn't been here for 12 years

10:21 a.m.

Uhm

10:21 a.m.

NoctiChill

Oh

Luka

Lukaaaa I am not going to be lynched

10:21 a.m.

Just

10:21 a.m.

Stay here and help me

Caitlin

I assume me.or Xia

I do kinda think ur wolf now tho but I dun wanna push u... sadcat

Who are the scum

I didn't love the reasons Code voted Gypyx

Luka

I do kinda think ur wolf now tho but I dun wanna push u... sadcat

Smh

Good morning

10:23 a.m.

It is early

10:23 a.m.

And I regret being in a game with 10 am EoD time

Fuck

Anyways

10:23 a.m.

Hi?

Did I accidentally pin a post

10:23 a.m.

Hi Silver

10:23 a.m.

I tried to reply

10:23 a.m.

And Idk what happened

10:24 a.m.

Help

That’s what fuck was to

And now I also lost the post anyway

Got it

Yes

10:24 a.m.

Playing on phone only sucks

Anyways, imma go see if I missed shit

It feels like I'm being skinned alive

Caitlin

Playing on phone only sucks

Oh yea, that’s fair

10:24 a.m.

I found an easy way to reply is drag the message to the left

10:25 a.m.

I don’t know how I figured that out, but I figured it out a while back

10:25 a.m.

Anyways

10:25 a.m.

Reading

10:25 a.m.

Yes

I may have

10:25 a.m.

Deleted the msg of I didn't pin it

10:26 a.m.

Luka

Its kind of blatently obvious atp so I'd say just claim now LeafWink

but i don't wanna waaaaaaaaaaah

Um

10:26 a.m.

Well its not in the edit log

10:26 a.m.

So lets see if I can find it back

10:27 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1225058285821104178 It exists! This msg sus

10:27 a.m.

What I wanted to say was

10:27 a.m.

'Code is sus but Xia is mafia' Or something along those lines

Dragon

Who are the scum

If you think I'm good and you're good, Gyp is the vigi here. Only way Code could be scum is if he completely lacks morals as wolf (IE: He's an Nge clone) I don't think Cait is scum w/ you either, that's more of a TMI read as opposed to a scum read and vice versa. You guys are relatively unapired therefor, but not super sure on it. Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Code
Kazuma
Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Gyp(Locked in if they're the vig, added to the cute line)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it.)
Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.) POE:
Cait
Owl Granted, it's really weak. I think that I have good reasons for all of them, if Gyp isn't vig I have an FoS there by virtue of POE. I kind of just want to resolve Owl today no matter what though.

I'm fairly confident in my top 3 at the very least, Kazuma seems to have town entitlement and honestly if they're scum I just laugh at Code. Code is confident enough in the read for me to sheep it I guess, even though I tihnk the way code has been playing is annoying me. If Xia is alive by D3 and their isn't a scum dead yet IMO it's clear that they're just being pocketed by Code or Vice Versa, either way I wouldn't think that's pure. I'm not really confident in any of tihs, my D1s are normally fairly weak.

Gypyx

but i don't wanna waaaaaaaaaaah

Dew it

TheSilverScepter

Good morning

Omg hi Silver...

So Luka is wolf cool

fine i'm VT

Gypyx

fine i'm VT

Such a believable claim fr.... sadcat

Well dont elim Gypyx anyway

Caitlin

So Luka is wolf cool

No I'm not. I think that both Code and Xia are scummy, but I think that Code is spamming AtE in a way that doesn't come from wolf I would hope.

10:29 a.m.

I would hope If they're alive by D3 I'm just going to hell push the slot.

Luka

No I'm not. I think that both Code and Xia are scummy, but I think that Code is spamming AtE in a way that doesn't come from wolf I would hope.

Explain Kazuma and why Xia isn't in your PoE?

btw could i get a tl;dr on kaz yeah

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Wanna give my own little piece of advice as well. Town are uninformed, while mafia have all the answers. Another way to discern who is town and who is mafia is by looking at what the said and going “Does this feel uninformed?” “Does this person feel too sure?” It’s a bit hard to distinguish, but a way to check is by seeing if people are naturally paranoid or showing natural hesitancy

Caitlin

Explain Kazuma and why Xia isn't in your PoE?

Code is locking Kazuma town and I felt I could just sheep that is a partial reason SeleneLul

My other reason is that there reaction to me pushing them is so godamned shitty I think it comes from a town, not even voting me just going "kill Luka tommorow" as if I'm some omniscent god who just can't be wrong it felt- really bad in a twony way ig?

twony

Xia is 3rd canidate there I think TBH, but their reactions to a few of my rxn tests are good, there reactions to the other few are rly rly shit. Either way it's a hedge slot RN for me, or a point of contention. I think that I can justify a vote on them just to resolve the slot + I don't exactly think it's super towny.

Gypyx

twony

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I see my name and I have an inclination to ask why :3

10:31 a.m.

I’m a vain bitch in mafia and will engage with you if I see my name

Luka

Xia is 3rd canidate there I think TBH, but their reactions to a few of my rxn tests are good, there reactions to the other few are rly rly shit. Either way it's a hedge slot RN for me, or a point of contention. I think that I can justify a vote on them just to resolve the slot + I don't exactly think it's super towny.

She gave like 0 reason for jumping on obvtown Gypyx except for 'defensive' but 'I dont wanna vote anyone!!!'

Luka

Code is locking Kazuma town and I felt I could just sheep that is a partial reason SeleneLul

My other reason is that there reaction to me pushing them is so godamned shitty I think it comes from a town, not even voting me just going "kill Luka tommorow" as if I'm some omniscent god who just can't be wrong it felt- really bad in a twony way ig?

Ig that does sound mildly townie for Kazuma

Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)
Code
Kazuma

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.)
Gyp(Locked in if they're the vig, added to the cute line)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it.) POE:
Cait
Owl Restructed reads if they're ordered FTR. That might be more agreeable for you.

TheSilverScepter

I see my name and I have an inclination to ask why :3

you don't really shine either by towniness or scuminess and i feel like that's where a lot of mafia members who are good enough to not really slip end up

I also accept the AtE reason on Code

Caitlin

She gave like 0 reason for jumping on obvtown Gypyx except for 'defensive' but 'I dont wanna vote anyone!!!'

Yeah, she didn't exactly deal w/ the situation well by any metric.

Caitlin

I also accept the AtE reason on Code

You should unvote me then O.o

I wanna elim in Luka/Xia/maybe Owl

Rude tbh..

10:33 a.m.

I just want Owl dead today, it's a UTR slot when POE is getting relatively small assuming Code has their town reads correct.

Luka

You should unvote me then O.o

Og I wanted to elim in you/Xia/Kazuma/Code, now not the final 2 anymore xD

Caitlin

Og I wanted to elim in you/Xia/Kazuma/Code, now not the final 2 anymore xD

Yw...

i could be convinced to touch Xia but i'm not touching Luka / Owl

Town Dragon Gypyx Silver Frosted (just sheeping here, honestly) Code Kazuma Owl Luka Xia Mafia

Explain why on Owl?

Gypyx

fine i'm VT

Ha my PR read is so good

Caitlin

Town Dragon Gypyx Silver Frosted (just sheeping here, honestly) Code Kazuma Owl Luka Xia Mafia

They're pr dw... sadcat

Caitlin

Town Dragon Gypyx Silver Frosted (just sheeping here, honestly) Code Kazuma Owl Luka Xia Mafia

Towny me being so low...

uhm (Kazuma)

Why me? Sorry if I’ve asked before

~~why me fry me~~ /j

(jk jk, why am I so low SeleneLul

)

Everyone says Frosted is town but I haven't seen them post a single time

Sorry for outing you Gypyx

Luka

(jk jk, why am I so low SeleneLul

)

No reason to trust you

10:34 a.m.

I gtg

I tried to avoid pushing you

Caitlin

Everyone says Frosted is town but I haven't seen them post a single time

They're so pure like istg..

10:35 a.m.

If you can ISO it, it's only 36 messages

Cant ISO on mobile

10:35 a.m.

So no I cant

Channel just a fraction of Abi's power

Dragon

Ha my PR read is so good

maybe i'll walk back the claim maybe i won't who knows

Dragon

@Code @uhm (Kazuma) @TheSilverScepter Please tell me what kind of scum player repeatedly says the don't have scumreads when they are the top wagon and flip flops a lot and gets into stupid unproductive fights with the most stubborn person in the whole wide world (Code) instead of trying to get a counterwagon going and pushing on it.

Hi, fair, I’m still catching up rn so

Gypyx

maybe i'll walk back the claim maybe i won't who knows

Least obvious vigilante... sadcat

Hello

10:37 a.m.

I’m online

10:37 a.m.

Sorry for the absence

helloo! I’ve noticed day 1 ends in 2 hrs, what does that entail

NoctiChill

I’m online

I have a new name for you: NoctiWolf Thoughts? MenheraCurious1

Luka

Least obvious vigilante... sadcat

https://youtu.be/z9TRMQwMNnY?si=JYWR9WtZ9q1Z1Ula

Hanna Andersson

Princess Bride - Wine Infront of Me

frosted ✧

helloo! I’ve noticed day 1 ends in 2 hrs, what does that entail

The day will end...

murder will happen

Luka

I have a new name for you: NoctiWolf Thoughts? MenheraCurious1

Go ahead it sounds nice

what happens then tho? just trying to get my head around how it works on disc

the old gods require the sacrifice of one of our own

Gypyx

murder will happen

murder ⁉️

Yeah

10:38 a.m.

It’s mafia

Yes someone gets executed and we go to night phase

yesyeysys i know but straight away?

10:38 a.m.

ohhh okok

Imma backread

10:39 a.m.

There’s been a heck ton of discussion

We're playing mafia, join us it's fun

Gypyx

i'm still hoping that maybe the wind blows another way and i can keep the ambiguity so maybe scum makes the wrong choice tonight i can do it a bit sooner than planned if you wish

As a reply to this, all it does is allow for wolves to create paranoia around your slot by keeping you alive if you’re town. Keeping this air of ambiguity can allow for a hero play, sure, but it also is counterproductive to town because then it’s a matter of dealing with someone who’s being overly ambiguous.

I would've confirmed my claim by D2 anyways

10:41 a.m.

but fair

anyways

10:42 a.m.

we have 2 hours to find someone else

10:42 a.m.

or idk

10:42 a.m.

i guess it's not that bad if i die but still bad, especially cause i think there's 1 / 2 scum on my wagon

Luka

Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)
Code
Kazuma

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.)
Gyp(Locked in if they're the vig, added to the cute line)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it.) POE:
Cait
Owl Restructed reads if they're ordered FTR. That might be more agreeable for you.

I was about to ask if this was reordered, then saw the last line

Gypyx

you don't really shine either by towniness or scuminess and i feel like that's where a lot of mafia members who are good enough to not really slip end up

Has your POE changed at all from the message I replied to

not rlly

:fish’s

10:45 a.m.

Fuck

Luka

kitty cat

10:45 a.m.

There we go

Gypyx

maybe i'll walk back the claim maybe i won't who knows

Glgl

Gypyx

kitty cat

Dragon

Glgl

Gypyx

i could be convinced to touch Xia but i'm not touching Luka / Owl

Explain Owl for me please?

10:46 a.m.

TheSilverScepter

Omg is that Poison from the hit game Team Mortality Hydra...

10:46 a.m.

Poison(3)

I sent that cause cat, but I’m realizing it looks like a pleading emoji

10:46 a.m.

Which is funny lmao

Luka

Omg is that Poison from the hit game Team Mortality Hydra...

Spec chat was so fucking silly with this emote

it's the disaster scenario of "no one can agree on anything and we need people to be able to get together"

I rather have Team America tbh

Team America was great to watch

10:47 a.m.

Poison has the more emote-able avatar

Gypyx

it's the disaster scenario of "no one can agree on anything and we need people to be able to get together"

… and how does that mean you don’t wanna touch Nocti?

Caitlin

I rather have Team America tbh

10:47 a.m.

I don’t get the connection is logic

10:47 a.m.

Oh my god it’s patriotism

Someone catch me up on what I've missed

Luka

Luka you should read Ile's flavor in the Cocktail game

TheSilverScepter

Team America was great to watch

For our 8 messages each day, each of them were great fr...

Code

Someone catch me up on what I've missed

Patriotism apparently

It was like

Caitlin

Luka you should read Ile's flavor in the Cocktail game

On MU?

That’s also a joke

TheSilverScepter

Patriotism apparently

Seriously though what have I missed.

100 times patriotism 1 time mafia claiming

10:48 a.m.

For an Ile cocktail

Code

Seriously though what have I missed.

There is like, umm, Gypyx dancing around a claim strangely

I would sheep Ile any day of the weak chupie

Luka

On MU?

Yes the Wintreath subforum

Caitlin

Yes the Wintreath subforum

Looking rn!

Luka leaving a reads list/legacy type thingy

All flavor there was amazing honestly

TheSilverScepter

… and how does that mean you don’t wanna touch Nocti?

I’m curious too Rn I’ve been written off as PoE and I haven’t done anything towny, I’d just like to hear the reasoning

TheSilverScepter

There is like, umm, Gypyx dancing around a claim strangely

Yea its weird

TheSilverScepter

There is like, umm, Gypyx dancing around a claim strangely

I don't think she can be realistically vig because her personality to this point screams to me "I'm the fucking stop voting me you dumbass" if she was.

But not enough to drop my shield

There’s no clear consensus on where people want to go from what I remember

I don't think she would dance around it. She's almost as abrasive as I am

Caitlin

All flavor there was amazing honestly

1 part screamo 1 part intuition 1 part open-wolfing 1 part serious 1 part silly 1 part self-determination 7 parts positivity Garnish with style!

Ftr spoilerint is illegal here

I read that as "I don't want to claim vig bc if I do then I will be shot by the real one"

Luka

1 part screamo 1 part intuition 1 part open-wolfing 1 part serious 1 part silly 1 part self-determination 7 parts positivity Garnish with style!

Lmfao

"But I NEED a defence"

TheSilverScepter

… and how does that mean you don’t wanna touch Nocti?

On the immediate moment i thought nocti was at least a little towny in the posts she had but i don't recall that

Caitlin

Lmfao

Guess who it was AcerolaYay

Code

I don't think she would dance around it. She's almost as abrasive as I am

@Caitlin @TheSilverScepter

1 part intuition 2 parts cute 1 part distracted 2 parts carefree 3 parts friendships 1 amazing girlfriend serve with butterflies

10:51 a.m.

This was mine

Luka

Guess who it was AcerolaYay

Hm

Code

I read that as "I don't want to claim vig bc if I do then I will be shot by the real one"

honestly i kinda wish the vig would shoot me just so that i don't have to interact with you

Caitlin

1 part intuition 2 parts cute 1 part distracted 2 parts carefree 3 parts friendships 1 amazing girlfriend serve with butterflies

True!

Gypyx

honestly i kinda wish the vig would shoot me just so that i don't have to interact with you

You say that while interacting with me. If you hate me so much just stop.

I rlly have no clue

Gypyx

honestly i kinda wish the vig would shoot me just so that i don't have to interact with you

Ain't no one forcing you

Caitlin

I rlly have no clue

SPF

Code

@Caitlin @TheSilverScepter

I get your point but also, I just don’t like stuff that makes a sorta “self resolving” slot situation where it’s a weird dance

Code

I don't think she would dance around it. She's almost as abrasive as I am

I think she's VT

Luka

SPF

Ohhhh

1 part shyness 1 part wholesomeness no Stalin posting whatsoever so... many... giggles!

10:52 a.m.

What about this MenharaThink

I just don’t like things that are inherently anti-town lmao

Caitlin

I think she's VT

Why

Luka

1 part shyness 1 part wholesomeness no Stalin posting whatsoever so... many... giggles!

Annika!

10:52 a.m.

?*

Caitlin

Annika!

Code

Why

Because I think she's town and she claimed VT

Gypyx

On the immediate moment i thought nocti was at least a little towny in the posts she had but i don't recall that

Mm, if you go through their ISO, do you think you could find it or nah

Caitlin

Because I think she's town and she claimed VT

Why do you think she's town

10:53 a.m.

Is my question

Caitlin

Annika!

I love Suki, an absolute sweetheart

Townie entrance and townie annoyance rn

4 parts trolling 1 part girlboss 3 parts naps 1 part gaymer 1 part goddess No animals were harmed in the creation of this cocktail

10:53 a.m.

What about this MenharaThink

TheSilverScepter

I love Suki, an absolute sweetheart

Yes I feel that too

10:53 a.m.

Sam lmfao

10:53 a.m.

100% Sam

I mean everyone gets annoyed by me, it's not really AI at this point

I mean

10:53 a.m.

I exist

She's been annoyed with me since the start because reasons

10:53 a.m.

Meta or something

Caitlin

100% Sam

Last one since I don't know any of the other people except a few ones that you would get instantly:

10:54 a.m.

3 parts alluring 2 parts sinister 1 part ruthless 2 parts underestimating herself a little bit of trolling 1 amazing host

Who the hell

10:54 a.m.

Rem…?

10:54 a.m.

No that doesn’t sound right

10:54 a.m.

I don’t know who was in that PL lmao and I’m just guessing

TheSilverScepter

Mm, if you go through their ISO, do you think you could find it or nah

ISO's aren't working for me on mobile

Rem?

10:55 a.m.

Or Kokoro

10:55 a.m.

Idk

Rem yeah

Oh my god I got it

10:55 a.m.

Help

You both were right MenheraNodFast

That’s amazing

So who's the mafia then

Anyways

If it isn't Gyp and it isn't shig

10:55 a.m.

Who is it

There is mafia on Gypyx

10:56 a.m.

Maybe 2

Cait thinks it's me MenheraTeehee

Unfortunately I will be busy until deadline

Code

If it isn't Gyp and it isn't shig

There's 10 players its almost.like there's 7 left then

There can't possibly be 2 because kaz is town

Gypyx I'm your doublevoter

Me + Xia to be specific...

Caitlin

There's 10 players its almost.like there's 7 left then

No shit, now who's the mafia

Tell me who to vote and I will do it

Xia/Luka/Owl I wanna vote in

Code

There can't possibly be 2 because kaz is town

Why is Kazuma town again?

Caitlin

Xia/Luka/Owl I wanna vote in

Caitlin

Xia/Luka/Owl I wanna vote in

I need to ISO Xia lmao

Caitlin

Xia/Luka/Owl I wanna vote in

Down to vote Luka

Luka

Why is Kazuma town again?

You're the one that got me to back off of Kazuma

Idk why you want him but sure

Everytime I catch up and see her stuff, I’m like

Caitlin

You're the one that got me to back off of Kazuma

No, I'm just asking Code

10:57 a.m.

Doesn't mean I want to push her RN

Luka

Doesn't mean I want to push her RN

Kazuma is male

him*

10:57 a.m.

Fucking hell I'm bad at this

Code

Idk why you want him but sure

Why do you want him

“Not very towny, but responses also aren’t inherently scummy”

Caitlin

Why do you want him

I explained in an essay previously

I think I just like Xia’s vibe honestly

A bunch of reasons why he's scum

10:57 a.m.

Your turn

You're annoying

10:58 a.m.

I'm voting Xia to spite you

Dragon

Tell me who to vote and I will do it

how long do i have to choose?

Caitlin

You're annoying

Me?

Yes?

Caitlin

I'm voting Xia to spite you

Do it then, if you wanna be wrong I can't stop you

Cause I remember liking her responses, but only some I like for the actual way of responding

Except I'm probably not wrong

Luka

Why is Kazuma town again?

@Code You've just said Kazuma was normal, not rly why he's town

Idk what I've done to you but

10:58 a.m.

If you find me annoying I can't help that

Luka

@Code You've just said Kazuma was normal, not rly why he's town

Can you elaborate?

Anyways

Gypyx

how long do i have to choose?

Oh I'll be here in an hour for like 5 minutes

Code is officially ignoring me guys sadcat

So I guess an hour?

Thoughts on Policying them w/ me?

What does policying mean

Luka

Thoughts on Policying them w/ me?

I'm ignoring you because every time I try to explain myself you dismiss it as having nothing worthy to say

NoctiChill

What does policying mean

Voting them for something not allignment indiactive.

So you aren't worth the effort.

It somehow seems like Shig and Kaz aren’t in vote contention anymore, for reasons I cannot understand

Luka

Voting them for something not allignment indiactive.

TheSilverScepter

It somehow seems like Shig and Kaz aren’t in vote contention anymore, for reasons I cannot understand

I wouldn't ever vote kaz

TheSilverScepter

It somehow seems like Shig and Kaz aren’t in vote contention anymore, for reasons I cannot understand

I saw Luka say entitlement from Kaz

Shig I can be convinced but I'm not willing rn

Code

I wouldn't ever vote kaz

For meta or for things this game

TheSilverScepter

For meta or for things this game

Combination of both

Code

I'm ignoring you because every time I try to explain myself you dismiss it as having nothing worthy to say

I can't post images right now, but you have 4 mentions of "Kazuma" in there ISO. 2 of them saying Kazuma is normal, and the other 2 complaining about Kazuma Shikiconfused

Because I want to understand why

Luka

I can't post images right now, but you have 4 mentions of "Kazuma" in there ISO. 2 of them saying Kazuma is normal, and the other 2 complaining about Kazuma Shikiconfused

Search kaz instead bc it's way more than that

Code calls him Kaz

Code

Search kaz instead bc it's way more than that

Oh, mb.

Cait, you’re towning Shig right

11:01 a.m.

Iirc

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1225047590043648020 Okay guys, first statement I found was you saying that you aren't going to explain why Kazuma is town Shikiconfused

TheSilverScepter

Cait, you’re towning Shig right

Correct

Why are you towning him as hardly as you are

TheSilverScepter

Because I want to understand why

Will post it briefly once I get home

Dragon

Oh I'll be here in an hour for like 5 minutes

alright i'll ping you with it

Code

Will post it briefly once I get home

Thank you

Don't expect more from me than that tho

Okay guys, I have ISOd more in depth and I have found out that you have not given a single reason why Kazuma is town Shikiconfused

11:02 a.m.

I'll wait for you to explain i Guess

11:02 a.m.

I guess*

11:02 a.m.

Typo...

11:02 a.m.

I'm dead

TheSilverScepter

Why are you towning him as hardly as you are

Feels newbie townie with how open they were with solving right from the get go, and I think their absolute lack of consistency in reads is townie too; wolves would take having some

For Shig, I see moments of like things tonally that seem towny

Luka

Thoughts on Policying them w/ me?

Caitlin

Feels newbie townie with how open they were with solving right from the get go, and I think their absolute lack of consistency in reads is townie too; wolves would take having some

Lack of consistency?

Fake* not take

Caitlin

Feels newbie townie with how open they were with solving right from the get go, and I think their absolute lack of consistency in reads is townie too; wolves would take having some

Are they new? I didn’t think they were

Shig is one of the most consistent here

Gypyx

Code

Shig is one of the most consistent here

Are you reading the same game

How much time till EOD?

Luka

How much time till EOD?

Two hours

11:03 a.m.

I think

2 hours

TheSilverScepter

Are they new? I didn’t think they were

First game in this community

2 hours is enough to push Code. Now, should I do it is the question MenheraCurious1

They haven't played here before yet

Sure, that makes more sense, sorta

Luka

2 hours is enough to push Code. Now, should I do it is the question MenheraCurious1

I’m probs never voting them today

11:04 a.m.

And will probably try and stop people from voting them today

Caitlin

Are you reading the same game

They said to always vig me I posted like 15 times and in that time they switched their read on me and immediately voted someone they called town minutes prior You're right thats so consistent

Code has 775 messages yet they haven't given a single reason for a read outside of myself, in which the reason was "inconsistency" despite that not being wolfy in the slightest MenheraCurious1

11:04 a.m.

Honestly I think it's just kind of funny, probaly not even wolf AI.

TheSilverScepter

I’m probs never voting them today

Only reason why I'd vote them is a policy

Sitting here, blinking at that

11:05 a.m.

And wondering

TheSilverScepter

Are they new? I didn’t think they were

They're an EMer SeleneLul

What has the world come to

Omg guys my position as top poster this phase is being challanged... chupie

By who, what

Code

Luka

They're an EMer SeleneLul

Iirc they said they didn't play there much though?

Nothing for the most part, Code just posts and fakes content..

Not surprising actually

Caitlin

Iirc they said they didn't play there much though?

Still an EMer, either way not new to mafia.

11:06 a.m.

And they play on MS now so shrugg

Still new to the community

True...

Unless you wanna claim they're an alt

Oh they're not.

I dont see why you're undermining my read

They know Alisae, so if they're an alt it would be of a MSer.

11:06 a.m.

Either way they're not new to the community.

They are though

Caitlin

I dont see why you're undermining my read

I'm not underminding your read, I never once challanged it.

Caitlin

They are though

To the game * They are new to the community.

How are they not new here lmao

11:07 a.m.

Ah ok

If I wanted to undermine your read, I would just directly challange it.

11:07 a.m.

Cause the read is weak enough to the point where i could chupie

Luka

I'm not underminding your read, I never once challanged it.

You kinda are challenging it though

Imma just

11:07 a.m.

Say this is a bit counterproductive lmao

Caitlin

You kinda are challenging it though

Not really, I'm not calling it false. This is an argument of Semantics though

TheSilverScepter

Say this is a bit counterproductive lmao

It’s not too much of a problem I guess cause no post cap or whatever

11:08 a.m.

But like, where does this lead us lmao

Dragon is town, Luka might not be town

11:08 a.m.

Convo done

Convo not done yet

11:08 a.m.

Why Luka maybe not town

TheSilverScepter

Why Luka maybe not town

Cait isn't the best at reading me, they've gotten better at it to the point where she can spot wolf me, but she still has trouble finding me V (Which, I think that she would admit to this?)

Well I gtg so from my side is done

Fair

11:09 a.m.

Have fun

11:09 a.m.

I also need to go SeleneLul

11:09 a.m.

Cya in like, an hour or something?

Caitlin

Well I gtg so from my side is done

Damn

I won't be here for EOD maybe.

I guess done lmao

I wont be here either

11:09 a.m.

So my vote is on Luka at EoD

Go off oomfie... chupie

Where’s your pfp from MU when needed

11:10 a.m.

Anyways

Bai, maybe see you later MenheraBunnyWave

Caitlin

I wanna elim in Luka/Xia/maybe Owl

I agree w luka

I don’t!

Caitlin

Town Dragon Gypyx Silver Frosted (just sheeping here, honestly) Code Kazuma Owl Luka Xia Mafia

Swap xia and dragon

Where are your reads at?

frosted ✧

helloo! I’ve noticed day 1 ends in 2 hrs, what does that entail

2hrs???

Unless it’s exactly like Cait’s with Shig and Xia swapped

silver who are you interested in voting

Well my pool was Shig/Kaz/Owl when I went to bed

11:14 a.m.

Then apparently there’s more controversy around Shig and Kaz than I thought

11:14 a.m.

I see the town reads on them and can’t make sense of them

11:14 a.m.

And Code is shielding Kaz for reasons they haven’t explained, not sure if what they say will suffice either because it seems reliant on some meta

11:15 a.m.

Owl feels like a shrug yeet in that pool, but other people are just townier and I think this slot has decent scum equity

11:16 a.m.

For Shig, idk there’s moments that feel towny

Ftr on Luka

But other moments that I’m just like “what the fuck”

Always when I TR him he says my accuracy is good

11:16 a.m.

And when I SR him he says my accuracy is bad

11:16 a.m.

Which is NAI

Caitlin

Are you reading the same game

Ive been saying this

Caitlin

Which is NAI

I was going to say lmao

Ngl I haven't seen him mention it in Team America game.though

11:17 a.m.

And there he was town who I scumread on the first two days

11:17 a.m.

So its null leaning scum

TheSilverScepter

Where are your reads at?

Me?

Ye

Alright helloo Landed safe and sound and now on the train back home

Gypyx

silver who are you interested in voting

To give a more solid and concise answer

Now to let's see what has been going on while I was gone

I don’t want to vote Luka, Code, Frosted

11:18 a.m.

It’d take a lot for me to vote Cait, but I likely never vote there today

TheSilverScepter

For Shig, idk there’s moments that feel towny

I genuinely struggle to see how you guys think he is towny

There’s stuff from him that’s both towny and scummy, it’s just the towny stuff to me is more niche things that I find town

11:19 a.m.

I tried explaining it earlier but got told off for it lmao

TheSilverScepter

Where’s your pfp from MU when needed

Which pfp Mine?

No Luka’s

Also main thing on Luka is

The one that is “go off oomfie”

Caitlin

Are you reading the same game

Feel free to prove me wrong? He was hard up Gyp's ass for most of it

I already prooved you wrong

TheSilverScepter

Ye

There’s one in dragon/luka. (Prefer dragon) Me code sliver and xia town. I have no opinion on cait and nocti

What about Gypyx and Frosted

TheSilverScepter

I don’t want to vote Luka, Code, Frosted

Why do you town frosted?

I see Luka still whining and crying

Caitlin

Also main thing on Luka is

1) He feels like he's in his scum meta 2) Manipulative way of defending 3) I don't think his level of annoyance aligns with the drastic measures he is willing to undertake

I think it'll be easier for you to pursue this read day2 cait

TheSilverScepter

What about Gypyx and Frosted

I havent seen frosted and would vote gyp but that’s not really game related

Its not like ppl are voting Xia either

i could do Xia

And Kazuma & Code both stated preferring Luka vote > Xia vote

TheSilverScepter

And Code is shielding Kaz for reasons they haven’t explained, not sure if what they say will suffice either because it seems reliant on some meta

If what I say won't be accepted by anyone there's no point me saying it at all

Now I rlly go

Caitlin

I already prooved you wrong

You didn't

Caitlin

1) He feels like he's in his scum meta 2) Manipulative way of defending 3) I don't think his level of annoyance aligns with the drastic measures he is willing to undertake

Between luka and shigad who would you lynch?

uhm (Kazuma)

Between luka and shigad who would you lynch?

I mean didn't she JUST town shigad

Ughhhhh

11:25 a.m.

For the love of god, please shoot shigad tonight @Alive Line NE

Code

You didn't

I pointed out how Dragon isn't consistent

11:25 a.m.

Its ngl so annoying that ppl called Shigad Dragon when their name was Shigad

11:25 a.m.

And now when their name is Dragon

11:26 a.m.

People are calling them Shigad

11:26 a.m.

So confusing

Caitlin

I pointed out how Dragon isn't consistent

Vote luka and I’ll back you

Caitlin

I pointed out how Dragon isn't consistent

You talked about how he towned you but that's 1 moment out of an entire narrative where he goes after Gyp the entirety

I already am

uhm (Kazuma)

Why do you town frosted?

That person is pure as fuck

Code

If what I say won't be accepted by anyone there's no point me saying it at all

I still want to listen

Code

You talked about how he towned you but that's 1 moment out of an entire narrative where he goes after Gyp the entirety

And immediately flipped on Xia

It makes me understand your perspective

11:26 a.m.

And that’s ultimately what I’m trying to do

TheSilverScepter

I still want to listen

Will you actually take it into account though because it doesn't sound like it

I will listen to it and try my best to understand it

11:27 a.m.

If I understand it, then yes

11:28 a.m.

If I don’t, then I can’t promise I will take it into account

11:28 a.m.

I can promise to try my best to understand your pov and listen to you

11:31 a.m.

I don’t know if I’ll be on for EoD

11:31 a.m.

But I’ll place a vote right now before I leave

11:31 a.m.

Hopefully I’ll be here for last 30 minutes

I'm jusy gonna say I want credit if luka flips scum bc I was the first one to case him

TheSilverScepter

I will listen to it and try my best to understand it

fine but if it goes south I'm just not explaining any more this game

Code

I'm jusy gonna say I want credit if luka flips scum bc I was the first one to case him

No you weren’t. I was

Prove it

11:38 a.m.

bc I cased him properly and I reminded everyone not to overestimate him like

11:38 a.m.

day 1

Lazy

11:39 a.m.

@Caitlin vote luka

11:39 a.m.

@Xiaysa

Cait is already voting luka

Oh mb

Smh smh

11:39 a.m.

At least you're behaving more this game

11:40 a.m.

@Dragon vote luka

Xiaysa

At least you're behaving more this game

Im going back to default settings next game. This is frustrating

Oh no, sus kaz will be back to town next game

11:41 a.m.

I'll look forward to it

11:41 a.m.

AAA

Garbage

Just one more stop and then I'm homee

@Alive Line NE I hard claim vig, fuck off

I'm really not liking that Luka wagon

Ignore that, my annoyance showed a bit MenheraTeehee

WHO WOULD'VE FUCKING THOUGHT

Code

I'm jusy gonna say I want credit if luka flips scum bc I was the first one to case him

I won't get credit for anything except making the vigi out and hard pushing a town chupie

@Alive Line NE now that gyp is clearly not vig just wagon her instead

Code

@Alive Line NE now that gyp is clearly not vig just wagon her instead

Id still rather shigad

11:47 a.m.

Gyp never claimed vig

no but people stopped wantimng her because she was dancing the claim

We're either killing Owl or Code today Both slots being flipped helps resolve gamestate IMO, Code being flipped makes me town Kazuma + Xia on the premise that they're not wrong. Owl is just a UTR slot that isn't doing much in the gamestate. I don't think that Gyp is super towny, I think that they shouldve just claimed Vig instead of claiming VT like a coward as a FPS, but I also don't know any reason to scum her aside from Code said so.

11:50 a.m.

Also, if you're going to case me in the future maybe make your case good please, that way I can justify outing myself, instead of just going "Luka changes votes = wolfy" since that's just annoying tbh.

good riddance luka

didn't wanna get shot D:

Code

no but people stopped wantimng her because she was dancing the claim

Dragon did the same shit yesterday

Code

good riddance luka

You haven't given any reason why Gyp is wolf FTR.

uhm (Kazuma)

Dragon did the same shit yesterday

I softed Vig like hell to Dragon FTR, so that's not wolfy chupie

11:51 a.m.

I don't have my glasses on me which kind of sucks.

11:51 a.m.

Cait not knowing I was vig is kind of wolfy and I don't love her slot on the premise, but her being annoyed w/ Code is (NAI) but I want to town it anyways SeleneLul

11:52 a.m.

I don't have much confidence in my D1 legacies, hence why I hoped to live till D2 but w/e.

I don't think code is really acheivable today sadly

Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)
Kazuma(Deserves to die tbh....)

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Code(Deserves to die tbh.... Also, I think there intearctions w/ me are shitty. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt but this is just. Bad.)
Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.)
Gyp(Their posts regarding me feels hedgy town and I like there annoyance. Not super confident in this, but not super weak on this either.)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it. Also deserves to die tbh...) POE:
Cait
Owl

11:57 a.m.

Legacy, GL.

11:58 a.m.

I think I'm at least 1/2 (I hope MenheraPray

)

Gypyx

I don't think code is really acheivable today sadly

I also think they're just town, but I want them dead anyways yk chupie

feeling's mutual

Ngl my shot was queued on them tonight as a policy..

Lets lynch shigaddddddd

Now I have to change What_a_Pain

@Dragon let's get on code

12:01 p.m.

or nocti maybe

12:01 p.m.

maybe nocti's the safer bet

12:02 p.m.

yeah actually @Dragon we're going on owl

Gypyx

@Dragon let's get on code

Its like you’re playing the game on your own

uhm (Kazuma)

Its like you’re playing the game on your own

only changed her mind when i voted her

I looked at the vc

12:03 p.m.

and went

12:03 p.m.

hmmmm

12:03 p.m.

anyways ummm

12:03 p.m.

i don't like this thread

why do you hate me so much gyp

12:03 p.m.

genuinely why

and this thread doesn't like me

it can't just be bc meta

bye~

excellent reason

Code

why do you hate me so much gyp

i'll get into more details postgame (edited)

k

12:04 p.m.

idk what i've done but

12:04 p.m.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

but like

12:05 p.m.

to be clear it's not just you

12:05 p.m.

just that you're kind of a personality that easily multiplies my frustration issues so that's how i got focused

alr

Well

12:06 p.m.

There’s that then

12:06 p.m.

Luka im never voting code today

He just wants me out because we have a mutual despisal of each other as players (and probably as people but i can't tell)

Yea that’s what I’m getting, but I’m still gonna make my stance clear

12:07 p.m.

Because I frankly don’t think you’re a hit

12:08 p.m.

There are four abstains right now

12:08 p.m.

Why

TheSilverScepter

Luka im never voting code today

Would you be willing to vote shigad?

Over Owl?

12:08 p.m.

Not as of right now

TheSilverScepter

Over Owl?

What the situation with owl

Owl has given me near zero moments of hesitation and hasn’t hit any town pings with me

Tbh

When I go through Shig’s ISO, there’s little glimpses of towny moments to me

Speak of the devil

Idk if I really care that much if I get voted

If I'm not 1/2 look into Code, Gyp, or Dragon first IMO. Weird that I have SIlver lower than Code but I want you to look into Code first, but yeh.

Gypyx

and this thread doesn't like me

I like u.. sadcat

I’ve liked everyone!

Same

TheSilverScepter

Luka im never voting code today

I don't want them voted, I only wanted them voted when I wouldve lived the night.

12:10 p.m.

Now that I'm dying I don't need to worry about it anymore!

Welp

12:10 p.m.

Got it

Woah who said Luka was dying rn

12:10 p.m.

I thought I had most votes

I'm dying tonight.

12:10 p.m.

Not today.

Oh

Also Nocti, is there anything that you want to say in regards to the game like reads wise

12:11 p.m.

Did you miss Luka claiming vig?

Yeah

Code

He just wants me out because we have a mutual despisal of each other as players (and probably as people but i can't tell)

I don't despise you as a player or as a person, it's only you who despises me. I don't like how you played this game, but despise is a strong word for somebody I'm really relatively null towards.

your entire chat this game is like

12:11 p.m.

"here's 13 reasons why"

.. Cause you've been pushing me all game, refuse to aknowledge half of my points, if I ask you a question you always dodge it, and you seem to be going out of your way to annoy me Shikiconfused

There's only one player I actually dislike, and it's certainly not you.

You don't get to talk to me about non acknowledgement

Is Luka being aggressive not normal in this format or no

When that's all you've done t ome

I'm aknowledging your points, you just don't really agree w/ me :p

Because I’m used to aggressive Luka lmao

You don't, you refuse to even believe they're there

Luka

.. Cause you've been pushing me all game, refuse to aknowledge half of my points, if I ask you a question you always dodge it, and you seem to be going out of your way to annoy me Shikiconfused

There's only one player I actually dislike, and it's certainly not you.

Is it who I’m thinking of

TheSilverScepter

Is Luka being aggressive not normal in this format or no

I can be agressive if u want.. MenharaBlush

Probably not but still

TheSilverScepter

Is it who I’m thinking of

Are you thinking of Matt

One of the reasons I'm just straight not explaining things to you any more

No

Oh

12:13 p.m.

Who are you thinking of then?

12:13 p.m.

I don

12:13 p.m.

a

12:13 p.m.

aaaaaaa

12:13 p.m.

nice

12:13 p.m.

Christmas game

TheSilverScepter

nice

Who are you thinking of MenheraCurious1

Should give you enough lmao

TheSilverScepter

Christmas game

... Lemon?

help

12:13 p.m.

No

EC Maybe?

It’s fine, this can be post game thing

No I'm curious

12:13 p.m.

Tell me now!

If you do ever want to tell me

Luka

EC Maybe?

This was the person in mind at first

12:14 p.m.

But the more I think about it

12:14 p.m.

I think you just ignore him lol

12:14 p.m.

Rather than dislike

Code

One of the reasons I'm just straight not explaining things to you any more

I mean, feel free to look. I've aknowledged all of your points, but you don't engage with any of my aknowledgments HeHe

TheSilverScepter

I think you just ignore him lol

^ I just ignore his reads since I think that's +ev to do.

Or you can just flip them

12:14 p.m.

That works wonders too

I think that he's fun to play with if I'm a wolf tbh LearWahaha

It’s still hilarious to me that in Traitors, his POE of 7 was all town

Luka

I mean, feel free to look. I've aknowledged all of your points, but you don't engage with any of my aknowledgments HeHe

you literally havne't, all you've done is say they don't exist, they're in bad faith, they are shit, etc.

TheSilverScepter

It’s still hilarious to me that in Traitors, his POE of 7 was all town

The funniest part was Aero going post game "EC is a good and agressive player" When the best way to play with EC is to reverse his reads Mwahahahaha

Help.

12:15 p.m.

Christmas being my first game with EC was certainly an experience

12:15 p.m.

Literally people in his solve just kept getting killed, it was the funniest shit

12:16 p.m.

Anyways

Code

you literally havne't, all you've done is say they don't exist, they're in bad faith, they are shit, etc.

Your main push on me was that I'm inconsistent which isn't really scum AI for me, which I believe Silver aknowledged that? Sorry if I'm mistaken on there, I said it wasn't a good way to push me. I can link a few games for confirmation of that. Which is also why I don't think you're pushing me in good faith, since you aren't realistically considering my side of things.

This is off topic

TheSilverScepter

Literally people in his solve just kept getting killed, it was the funniest shit

Luka is the only town in this game fr...

Luka

Your main push on me was that I'm inconsistent which isn't really scum AI for me, which I believe Silver aknowledged that? Sorry if I'm mistaken on there, I said it wasn't a good way to push me. I can link a few games for confirmation of that. Which is also why I don't think you're pushing me in good faith, since you aren't realistically considering my side of things.

i dom

12:16 p.m.

don't want you to link anything

12:16 p.m.

i just don't want anything from you

12:16 p.m.

i'm not explaining and you can't change my mind on any of the points i just made

12:16 p.m.

i dont feel listened to by you like WHATSOEVER

Okay, but that explains my logic. I also just like, talked to you about that and you just ignored said point. Which, is why I think it's in bad faith HeHe

Sorry if you think I'm treating you poorly cute_heart

I also just like, talked to you about that and you just ignored

Code

i dont feel listened to by you like WHATSOEVER

The only reason I'm not pushing Xia is cause of you, so you're certainly being listened by me Hehe

whatever you say

I just often don't show it.

just leave it

12:17 p.m.

we can fight postgam

Code

whatever you say

I can link that too if you want, I'm acknowledging all of your points.

shut up

Code

we can fight postgam

I don't think that'l be productive tbh so probably not...

Code

shut up

Imma just

i mean you're the one pestering me to tell you all the reasons why you made this game unfun

Suggest stepping away

TheSilverScepter

Suggest stepping away

now you suddenly don't want me to

I need to play the game since I'm dying

It’s clear that this isn’t leading the both of you anywhere

Luka

I need to play the game since I'm dying

Yea but right now what you’re arguing isn’t technically going to be relevant once your dead

Code

i mean you're the one pestering me to tell you all the reasons why you made this game unfun

I thought better of getting into an hour long argument post game w/ somebody who probably won't change their views MenheraNya5

You’re*

TheSilverScepter

Yea but right now what you’re arguing isn’t technically going to be relevant once your dead

Omg true...

Aside from reading into Code from this

TheSilverScepter

Aside from reading into Code from this

And for Code, genuinely the best thing to do is step away when things become unfun

i mean me explaining to you how you upset me is hardly something you can chaange my views on and the fact that's all you were going to do shows you never had any intention of even trying

@Gypyx do I vote Nocti?

It’s hard because of the need to feel vindicated/want to be heard, but the longer you engage in this

12:19 p.m.

The more likely you’ll be unhappy with this

TheSilverScepter

And for Code, genuinely the best thing to do is step away when things become unfun

If ur wolf then stop white knight me It's making me nervous btw MenheraNya5

Stop being so helpful it's annoying tbh...

12:20 p.m.

wrong emote-

12:20 p.m.

:catsad

12:20 p.m.

aaaa

12:20 p.m.

I'm bad at this

12:20 p.m.

I’d be mediating regardless lmao

this is exactly why i don't explain how i feel to people

I don’t like people fighting in thread

Luka

If ur wolf then stop white knight me It's making me nervous btw MenheraNya5

Stop being so helpful it's annoying tbh...

whiteknighting aaa

TheSilverScepter

I’d be mediating regardless lmao

Is this an admission o.o

12:20 p.m.

Perspective slip MVP

Frfr

because all they want to do most of the time is invalidate/change my mind on why i feel upset

I’m saying this as someone who recently came out of a really bad spat

Code

because all they want to do most of the time is invalidate/change my mind on why i feel upset

I mean, emotions are a real thing but my main goal is to see if I'm in the wrong here as opposed to just upsetting your tell.

And got very emotional in thread with someone

TheSilverScepter

And got very emotional in thread with someone

Omg I can't believe u yelled at stett :c

Genuinely continuing to engage with this won’t get anywhere

Luka

Omg I can't believe u yelled at stett :c

HELP

Stett deserved it for going 0/5...

Luka

I mean, emotions are a real thing but my main goal is to see if I'm in the wrong here as opposed to just upsetting your tell.

you only care about seeing if you're in the wrong which means this will ALWAYS be about defending yourself and I would not be putting in the effort for you to get that outcome, i would be doing it so you UNDERSTAND MY perpsective, but you clearly only care about whether it's win/lose for you

Poor Stett, getting dragged even here

12:22 p.m.

I’m asking as a person and not as a player really

TheSilverScepter

I’m asking as a person and not as a player really

I'll stop engaging just for u cute_heart

12:22 p.m.

Uhm

This isn’t something that should be continued here in a public thread

I always say "uhm" whenever I say something corny...

12:23 p.m.

To distance myself from the fear of saying that..

yea like genuinely can yall not.

It’s obvious there’s a disconnect because Luka is thinking in the scheme of the game

sunny

yea like genuinely can yall not.

Okayyy :sadcac

While Code is feeling invalidated by that

12:23 p.m.

I'm so bad at this

This is something to discuss privately post game

12:23 p.m.

It’s fine, just be mindful in the end this is a public game thread

TheSilverScepter

While Code is feeling invalidated by that

I don't even think he is because we were both clearly discussing about postgame

Is wont shortform for will not or no? I don't think it is?

but yeah I'm done, bc he's never gonna change

:/

Going back to the game.

this is really unnecessary and frustrating me just please keep it to post-game or private chats

@TheSilverScepter Read on Shig?

sunny

this is really unnecessary and frustrating me just please keep it to post-game or private chats

12:24 p.m.

I love u sunny, sorry <3

Luka

@TheSilverScepter Read on Shig?

In POE, probably like third on the prio list

hello hello

Hihi

I have some notes to share

Just my opinions and observations !!

Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)
Kazuma(Deserves to die tbh....)
Code

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it. Also deserves to die tbh...)
Gyp(Their posts regarding me feels hedgy town and I like there annoyance. Not super confident in this, but not super weak on this either.)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.) POE:
Cait
Owl POE Presuming I move the lower confident towns off:
Dragon
Gyp
Cait
Owl That should just be winning, unfortunately

I stand by my top post as the best possible 2/2, but not sure on that. Mostly cause Cait is FOSing Owl w/o doing anything

frosted ✧

I have some notes to share

Just my opinions and observations !!

Omg ur so pure.. sadcat

12:26 p.m.

If ur wolf I'll cry @frosted ✧

12:26 p.m.

@frosted ✧ You wouldn't make me cry would you MenheraPlead

awww those notes are so cute

Xiaysa

awww those notes are so cute

Omg frosted is so pure..

frosted ✧

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Best read notes taker

12:27 p.m.

No question

Luka

Omg frosted is so pure..

ikr?

12:27 p.m.

now i wanna make cute notes myself too

frosted ✧

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Being called the cornerstone of the chat is the best thing I could be called this game

I would not because I am town and I promise you that am_heart

Oh my god

frosted ✧

Click to see attachment 🖼️

The EMOJIS Honestly I love this

I know I haven’t said or contributed much for the team but I tried here ahehaha

NoctiChill

The EMOJIS Honestly I love this

yayayaya thank you!!!

frosted ✧

I know I haven’t said or contributed much for the team but I tried here ahehaha

You’ve contributed more than me

dw you're trying frosted, and that's good enough!

12:29 p.m.

I will die for frosted..

Dragon

@Gypyx do I vote Nocti?

ye

I’m typing a reading rn hopefully I can get it done before I’m axed

Irl...

12:29 p.m.

@Xiaysa I think Frosted took ur slot of most wholesome sorry..

See

12:29 p.m.

I’m now getting cold feet

12:29 p.m.

Cause there’s zero sense of self preservation from Nocti

frosted ✧

yayayaya thank you!!!

Please survive I’m begging you

Luka

@Xiaysa I think Frosted took ur slot of most wholesome sorry..

that's fine dw, even i agree frosted is the most wholesome one here

12:29 p.m.

i'd die for frosted anytime too

frosted ✧

Click to see attachment 🖼️

No scumreads?

Dragon

No scumreads?

She’s new, I wouldn’t exactly expect scumreads I’m not great at scumreads either

Also there’s just no counterwagons

NoctiChill

She’s new, I wouldn’t exactly expect scumreads I’m not great at scumreads either

That wasn't criticism

12:30 p.m.

I was just asking

I normally don’t read into wagonomics but like

thank you guys

I’m glad you like my notes

Dragon

That wasn't criticism

Sorry mb

Wouldn’t a team of two here try something?

12:30 p.m.

Idk

Xiaysa

that's fine dw, even i agree frosted is the most wholesome one here

Ranking List:

Wholesome
- Frosted
- Xia
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Code
Least Wolesome

The only tierlist that matters fr...

Dragon

No scumreads?

it’s trickyy aaa

frosted ✧

thank you guys

I’m glad you like my notes

They’re great

NoctiChill

Sorry mb

No problem!

Luka

Ranking List:

Wholesome
- Frosted
- Xia
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Code
Least Wolesome

The only tierlist that matters fr...

Why am I third I swear I’ve done nothing

Luka

Ranking List:

Wholesome
- Frosted
- Xia
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Code
Least Wolesome

The only tierlist that matters fr...

TRUEEE awwww i'm honoured to be 2nd after frosted

frosted ✧

it’s trickyy aaa

It's fine!

Luka

Ranking List:

Wholesome
- Frosted
- Xia
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Code
Least Wolesome

The only tierlist that matters fr...

The fact that I’m that high is so funny to me tbh

12:31 p.m.

Cause normally I’m such a sarcastic bitch LMAO

I just want to see if you could bring yourself to suspect anyone

TheSilverScepter

The fact that I’m that high is so funny to me tbh

guess you're a wholesome bitch now

12:31 p.m.

personality change

NoctiChill

Why am I third I swear I’ve done nothing

Hence why ur 3rd

Yoink

12:32 p.m.

Guess my sarcasm is gone now

Luka

Hence why ur 3rd

Lmao

seems like it

How does one be wholesome

12:32 p.m.

I feel like I’ve just been nice lmao

Yeah you’ve been nice

You’re making me feel bad for voting you, help

I’m feeling bad for not contributing dw

12:33 p.m.

In truth I just wasn’t able to get my head around shit the entire game

@Luka do you still want Nocti because I’m genuinely getting cold feet

12:33 p.m.

Also

12:34 p.m.

Remember to cast a vote before the EoD

Oh yeah

NoctiChill

In truth I just wasn’t able to get my head around shit the entire game

I do relate there !! I think it’s really difficult also, but at the end of the day it is a game and you don’t need to feel bad at all

Idk who to vote for

frosted ✧

I do relate there !! I think it’s really difficult also, but at the end of the day it is a game and you don’t need to feel bad at all

See. Frosted speaks truth

Sometimes it’s easier to find people who aren’t towny rather than look for people who are scummy

12:34 p.m.

That’s a valid way of reading the game as well

Yeah I don’t think I have time to read 215 messages

12:35 p.m.

24 minutes left guys

12:35 p.m.

What’s happening

uhm (Kazuma)

Yeah I don’t think I have time to read 215 messages

Umm, basically Luka is vig, Nocti is top wagon, Frosted is pure as shit

Scale For Comparisn:

Wholesome
- Akasuki
- Frosted
- Jazzy Kate
- Xia
- Garden Gnome
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Evil Contract
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Alisae
- Code
Least Wolesome

Code and Luka are v/v and I refuse to hear otherwise

Luka

Scale For Comparisn:

Wholesome
- Akasuki
- Frosted
- Jazzy Kate
- Xia
- Garden Gnome
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Evil Contract
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Alisae
- Code
Least Wolesome

JAZZY KATE?

12:35 p.m.

FOURTH?

TheSilverScepter

JAZZY KATE?

ITS TRUE

NOT FOURTH

12:35 p.m.

THIRD

Luka

Scale For Comparisn:

Wholesome
- Akasuki
- Frosted
- Jazzy Kate
- Xia
- Garden Gnome
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Evil Contract
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Alisae
- Code
Least Wolesome

Wow I'm insulted

TheSilverScepter

@Luka do you still want Nocti because I’m genuinely getting cold feet

Either them or Cait tbh

THAT BITCH AIN’T WHOLESOME

How am I in your bottom 4

TheSilverScepter

THIRD

OMG TRUE 3RD MIGHT WORK

I’m feeling about voting myself if the wagon doesn’t let up

Dragon

How am I in your bottom 4

Ur not wholesome enough...

Luka

Scale For Comparisn:

Wholesome
- Akasuki
- Frosted
- Jazzy Kate
- Xia
- Garden Gnome
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Evil Contract
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Alisae
- Code
Least Wolesome

I expected to be much lower

Luka

OMG TRUE 3RD MIGHT WORK

NO YOU PUT HER THIRD

Luka

Ur not wholesome enough...

Liessss

THAT IS WAY TOO HIGH

uhm (Kazuma)

I expected to be much lower

I added Alisae as a scale for comparisn!

TheSilverScepter

NO YOU PUT HER THIRD

Oh, that works MenheraNodFast

TheSilverScepter

THAT IS WAY TOO HIGH

She's so nice to me wtf

My one experience with Alisae was not great

Luka

She's so nice to me wtf

Well to you, yea

12:36 p.m.

She’s also the pettiest bitch you can meet LMAO

TheSilverScepter

My one experience with Alisae was not great

She's not wholesome She's nice and I like her but she's not Wholesome

Yea that’s fair

TheSilverScepter

She’s also the pettiest bitch you can meet LMAO

Well, she's nice to me that's all that matters tbh MenheraNodFast

You had a whole wolf chat with her

Yeah Alisae is opposite of wholesome

While I had to deal with an AtE spheal where I was the punching bag of it lmao

12:37 p.m.

Nothing against her for it, just didn’t feel good at the time

If nocti flips town shoot shigad @Luka

uhm (Kazuma)

If nocti flips town shoot shigad @Luka

Ill shoot who I wish tbh...

12:37 p.m.

Anyways, gtg Bai

12:38 p.m.

we can kill Cait / Shig just to resolve if you guys want idrc

12:38 p.m.

I'm neutral on D1 votes

12:38 p.m.

I just shoot my scum read tbh.

Luka

Scale For Comparisn:

Wholesome
- Akasuki
- Frosted
- Jazzy Kate
- Xia
- Garden Gnome
- Nocti
- Siler
- Caitlin
- Evil Contract
- Gyp
- Kazuma
- Dragon
- Luka
- Alisae
- Code
Least Wolesome

Seeing Gnomey below Kate is wild to me

Luka never shoots his mason buddy

Luka

we can kill Cait / Shig just to resolve if you guys want idrc

Then vote shig

Nty

12:38 p.m.

Bye

I haven’t been very active in this game (sorry abt that) and I’m fucking dying soon so here are soon reads since I haven’t been able to think of shit all game cus skill issue Town Lean: Frosted (Purest of them all) Luka (Hard claimed vig) Code (I just don’t think Code is scum based on his interactions) Silver (Idk how I can give a reason head empty) Unsure: Xia Caitlin (I haven’t read much of Cait’s messages) Kazuma Gyp PoE: Shigad As much as my small brain can get out lmao

frosted ✧

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This cute wtf

NoctiChill

I haven’t been very active in this game (sorry abt that) and I’m fucking dying soon so here are soon reads since I haven’t been able to think of shit all game cus skill issue Town Lean: Frosted (Purest of them all) Luka (Hard claimed vig) Code (I just don’t think Code is scum based on his interactions) Silver (Idk how I can give a reason head empty) Unsure: Xia Caitlin (I haven’t read much of Cait’s messages) Kazuma Gyp PoE: Shigad As much as my small brain can get out lmao

No scumreads

TheSilverScepter

@Luka do you still want Nocti because I’m genuinely getting cold feet

Vote shigadddd

What if shig flips town

NoctiChill

I haven’t been very active in this game (sorry abt that) and I’m fucking dying soon so here are soon reads since I haven’t been able to think of shit all game cus skill issue Town Lean: Frosted (Purest of them all) Luka (Hard claimed vig) Code (I just don’t think Code is scum based on his interactions) Silver (Idk how I can give a reason head empty) Unsure: Xia Caitlin (I haven’t read much of Cait’s messages) Kazuma Gyp PoE: Shigad As much as my small brain can get out lmao

his

NoctiChill

I haven’t been very active in this game (sorry abt that) and I’m fucking dying soon so here are soon reads since I haven’t been able to think of shit all game cus skill issue Town Lean: Frosted (Purest of them all) Luka (Hard claimed vig) Code (I just don’t think Code is scum based on his interactions) Silver (Idk how I can give a reason head empty) Unsure: Xia Caitlin (I haven’t read much of Cait’s messages) Kazuma Gyp PoE: Shigad As much as my small brain can get out lmao

Vote shigad if you wanna live

The fucking self vote

12:41 p.m.

Oh my god

I don’t have faith in myself to be a useful asset

12:42 p.m.

But

12:42 p.m.

I’ll vote shig

@Code shig

Yea this just feels like a textbook town EoD from Nocti

welp

What do we do if shig flips town tho

TheSilverScepter

Yea this just feels like a textbook town EoD from Nocti

Wait really??

help

NoctiChill

What do we do if shig flips town tho

I don’t want to consider that possibility

NoctiChill

Wait really??

This reads pure

12:44 p.m.

Crying

Lmaooo I haven’t played properly in a while

Mafia during EoD when they’re top wagon react differently in my experience

12:45 p.m.

They either enter antispew or are scrambling to live

Yeah now that I think abt it

You’re neither right now, instead focusing on giving a legacy that you think is good and projecting what you think is best for town

Yep

12:46 p.m.

I’ll be more proactive

It could be something faked, but it just reads pure from you right now

NoctiChill

Wait really??

This reaction in particular

Hmmmm Ig I kinda lost faith in myself to be useful to the game that’s why I was talking like I had an axe above my head during the last hour

@Code 11 minutes

️

uhm (Kazuma)

@Code 11 minutes

k

Code

k

Vote shig

cba

@Xiaysa vote shig

Code

cba

Pretty please

hes dying anyway why do you need me

They'll be lynched anyways at this rate

Its 3-2 i dont want to take any chances

Code

hes dying anyway why do you need me

Pretty pretty pretty please

whatever

Tysm

When shig comes online to see this-

@Luka if shig flips scum leave code alone

NoctiChill

When shig comes online to see this-

Im grinning from ear to ear right now

If Shig flips town

uhm (Kazuma)

Im grinning from ear to ear right now

Kaz managed to completely change the wagon

I will be holding you accountable

12:54 p.m.

And putting heavy scrutiny on you

if shig flips town i'll vote myself

Not you

12:54 p.m.

Kaz

Yeah

Code just vote yourself now

12:55 p.m.

Since I am town

TheSilverScepter

And putting heavy scrutiny on you

That is fair, but im confident nocti would have flipped town either way

Ok but your entire thing has been getting Shig out

uhm (Kazuma)

That is fair, but im confident nocti would have flipped town either way

So not much of a difference in that case

TheSilverScepter

Ok but your entire thing has been getting Shig out

Yeah it does seem he took advantage of the situation to get a wagon on shig

TheSilverScepter

Ok but your entire thing has been getting Shig out

Because shig is more likely to be scum than nocti

uhm (Kazuma)

@Luka if shig flips scum leave code alone

I'm dying anyways, and obviously.

12:56 p.m.

I'm not stupid.

uhm (Kazuma)

Because shig is more likely to be scum than nocti

This is even before Nocti was discussed tho

Luka

I'm dying anyways, and obviously.

Didnt mean it that way mb

You're fine, I don't care sadcat

12:56 p.m.

As long as I can get spoilers when I die I'm good.

I’m saying that you need more scrutiny if Shig flips town

12:56 p.m.

And that’s really it

TheSilverScepter

This is even before Nocti was discussed tho

Because shig was the most likely to be scum still

Okay so

Gtg

12:57 p.m.

Bye

Why am I the cw

GL Getting a scum flip

Dragon

Why am I the cw

Kaz

TheSilverScepter

I’m saying that you need more scrutiny if Shig flips town

Thats fair and fine but as scum why would I fight to get one specific person out?

NoctiChill

Kaz

Hm

Dragon

Why am I the cw

You’re welcome

What's the chance you are scum with Kaz?

Agenda, power wolfing

@NoctiChill

There’s a lot of things that could be why

Dragon

What's the chance you are scum with Kaz?

Elaborate

TheSilverScepter

Agenda, power wolfing

Neither of those are things I’m capable of as scum. Ask xia and code

I'm trying to determine Kaz's motivation for this

Agenda is an inherent part of being scum lmao

12:59 p.m.

Wolves want to push town out

I guess the lack of obvious agenda does make him lean town but idk

Agenda

uhm (Kazuma)

Neither of those are things I’m capable of as scum. Ask xia and code

he can't keep his cool when he's wolf

Dragon

I guess the lack of obvious agenda does make him lean town but idk

Kaz?

he's not wolf

Yeah

12:59 p.m.

Kaz

Mmm

TheSilverScepter

Wolves want to push town out

Yea but one SPECIFIC person? I could’ve easily wagoned anyone else.

But I just can't grok any of his thought process

Really

Maybe that's just NAI

You don’t actually believe that, do you

End of Day 1

Day 2 Top

Hi

1:04 p.m.

Ig I'ma read EoD cuz mafia hit Vigi!Luka so maybe he claimed oops

yeah, he did

1:05 p.m.

rip

Xiaysa

yeah, he did

What a dum dum

agreed

1:07 p.m.

and hi ilee!!

Anyways lets get this game going shall we

good idea

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1224125635736244324/1225117683662454895 ~~As someone that doesn't rlly believe in slips like this since I do them as town constantly this one does feel pretty slip'y, ngl~~

1:08 p.m.

Oh right Ile replaced in

1:08 p.m.

Hi Ile

1:09 p.m.

@TheSilverScepter @uhm (Kazuma) am I right in assuming there was no claim from Luka

There was a hard claim from him

Cuz I cant find one unless I am blind

1:09 p.m.

Oh

Because he was top wagon at some point

Thank you

With like four votes?

Ig I didn't scroll back enough

He pinged Alive NE

Ok but

1:10 p.m.

I got like 4 pings

1:10 p.m.

Did you rlly think I checked all of them

Fair

1:10 p.m.

i meannn

1:10 p.m.

just look there

1:10 p.m.

can see all pings there

I've been phoneposting all game

1:10 p.m.

So no

1:10 p.m.

I cant, lol

still doable on phone too tho

1:10 p.m.

iirc

I mean there’s the notifs page that mobile now has

Well then tell me where the box is on my phone

But that page is lowkey ass so

Notifications on the bottom

1:11 p.m.

and then just click on the dots to the top right and have it show only mentions

Either way I didn't have a night action so I didn't rlly care about what happened

either role or indirect ones

1:11 p.m.

yeah fair

TheSilverScepter

But that page is lowkey ass so

agreed

Anyways

and imma just throw it out here, but since ile replaced in i'd say she's most likely town for sure

Thats not allowed ftr, apologies

ahhh

Luka

Either way, what I'm looking at RN: Town - Strong tinfoil if all 3 of these people are alive by LYLO

Frosted(Probably giving them to much credit but they just seem so pure omfg...)
Kazuma(Deserves to die tbh....)
Code

Cute Line

Luka

Town Lean - Probably town, but not super sure on it.

Silver(They just seem super understanding and town silver, but they play wayyy different on forums so not sure on this.)
Xia(If this and code are alive by D3 w/ no scums chopped, probably just murder it. Also deserves to die tbh...)
Gyp(Their posts regarding me feels hedgy town and I like there annoyance. Not super confident in this, but not super weak on this either.)
Dragon(Maybe? Not sure on this read, but you saying you're self voting read pure to me. Unfortunately, I can be fooled by this and it's easily fakable. I'm not fully confident in the read and I don't know if you fake those things or not, hence why it's only a lean.) POE:
Cait
Owl POE Presuming I move the lower confident towns off:
Dragon
Gyp
Cait
Owl That should just be winning, unfortunately

I stand by my top post as the best possible 2/2, but not sure on that. Mostly cause Cait is FOSing Owl w/o doing anything

Bringing this down for reference

noted

We are to not discuss replacements as informative as they may be

i'll keep that in mind, mb Salute

Np

Yea no angleshooting

Luka might have 0/4'd if Gypyx is town But eh he'd die nmw so imo its not a bad look on her

true

I do lean it being 0/4 since Gyp was my 2nd highest TR yday

1:15 p.m.

Meh means Luka cant get annoyed at me postgame for being wrong

Anyways

1:17 p.m.

I still don’t like Kaz that much, now that Shig has flipped town

1:17 p.m.

I think their scum equity raises decently

Code prob town for all the AtE, so Grace is town Xia angleshooting for info is p townie ngl so I was probably wrong in sussing her Leaves; Silver, Kazuma, Frosted, Gypyx Ig I'll vote Kazuma; everyone says Frosted is soooo townie, I wanna honor my previous read on Gypyx and it just feels better to vote Kazuma over Silver

Xia doesn’t change much from any of the flops provided, which is largely unsettling

1:18 p.m.

I will put my life on the line for Frosted

TheSilverScepter

I don’t like people fighting in thread

Not a town slip This is a personality thing

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Sorry for ping

Xiaysa

and imma just throw it out here, but since ile replaced in i'd say she's most likely town for sure

NO UR GUNNA FET BANNED

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